BSG Meta: Six vs Eight vs Identity
Well, I'm still in South Korea. Still plugging away. Very grateful it's the weekend and not really in the mood to bore everyone with talk of such things, so instead, I have written BSG meta for the first time in ages. Hurrah!
( Her model is weak / Your model is usually so hardcore. ORLY? )
( Her model is weak / Your model is usually so hardcore. ORLY? )
I feel a strong ambivalence that I think exists in the text also, about this whole "hardcore Six" vs "softcore Eight" and how it might be exactly backwards as soon as you claw the slightest bit under the surface.
I keep saying to watch Boomer. And the Eights. And Sharon. Not because Sharon hasn't proven herself. She's done the best she can. But because, like Six, she isn't human. And Boomer? Boomer is bitter. Sharon took her life, would be nothing on that ship without their memories of Boomer. She has a right to some rage of her own. I almost want her to be angry. But I also want Boomer, and the Cylons as a whole, to kind of get over the Galactica and the fleet. I once thought they had a potential to be something beyond human. Maybe even better than human. But it doesn't seem where the show is going. And maybe that's just my imagination stretching.
It's interesting that first act of cylon ( ... )
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I once thought they had a potential to be something beyond human. Maybe even better than human.
Interesting! I don't think I'd ever say better simply because I don't think that the show supports that kind of absolutist narrative. It's why I dislike the idea that the Cylon must become like humans because that's just as absolute, and suggests we are superior for...no good reason that the show can supply.
Sidenote: One of the only key things in the show that irritates me is the constant harping on about how you have to be worthy of surviving and just surviving isn't enough. It irritates me because I absolutely and HUGELY think that survival isn't an excuse to turn yourself into a monster, and I think that's what they're really trying to get at, but in the show, the question is often used in uncharacteristically simplistic ways. It's like a get-out-of-complex-discussion-while-appearing-to-be-"deep"-free ( ... )
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Hmm, okay. Maybe not better. But beyond human. More. There is so much potential. Sentient beings who can feel and reason. Heck, I'm even interested in the Centurions. Did that one get what Gaius was saying about God? These beings, who knows what they might be able to do ( ... )
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See, I think the reason why I'm so irked about the constant "we have to be worthy of surviving" schtick we get from Bill (or at least we used to in S3) is that I think the show does a really good job of this most of the time.
Because it makes me question my preconceptions. So, for instance, I absolutely agree that survival is no excuse to become a monster because then you haven't survived. Cain is proof of this. But that said, I also don't think that you have to prove your worthiness to survive. Survival is an inalienable right. But one sometimes you have to fight for ( ... )
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Not incoherent, I agree with you! Middle ground, sometimes this show lacks middle ground. There is something between Cain and Pacifism. Maybe Lee will find it. I don't know. I hope they find it.
Natalie chose death for her entire race. You can't make that kind of a decision and not go first.Wow. You mean since she worked to destroy the Hub? She also choice trust too, trust that the humans wouldn't take advantage of the Cylons' newly mortal status. A martyr for her cause, she knew the possibility of death ( ... )
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I did gather a few thoughts here on Caprica and Head!Six. A bit rambly, though.
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