BSG: Eye of Jupiter

Dec 17, 2006 19:18

Hmm. So, I think I'll know what I think of this episode on the whole once I've seen the second half. What I have to say about this episode at this time isn't so much an overal critique as a serious of comments on various moments / characters.

In points, 1 - 10, for today I am feeling organised. )

bsg, kara's faith is hollow, boomer, adama vs roslin, caprica!six, episode review

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chingadoll December 17 2006, 23:19:44 UTC
if you don't mind me commenting randomly, here goes...
1. I'm so hoping it won't be it. I kept thinking about it, whenever it popped up on screen, I really hope it's not sth so obvious.
2. excellent points. sth bothered me about that plot thread, now that you've brought it up I know what it was.
3. totally forgot that Kara was actually portrayed as the most religious of the bunch. they didn't go with it anywhere, so it feels a bit off, her mentioning it at this point and especially in such circumstances.
4. yep, liking how Dee was in this ep. I'm pretty convinced she *knows*
5. LOL
6. Boomer! You are oddly numb to everything!
exactly!! Bommer was/is? my fav character. I shipped her and Chief till s2 finale!! man, she used to have the most wrenching scenes in the series ...till season 3. and now what!? we're just supposed to accept she let go of all that?!
She can't stand to see Athena in her place, but isn't petty enough to deny her the knowledge of her child.excellent points!! --I seem to be repeating myself but yours *is* an ( ... )

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beccatoria December 18 2006, 18:25:42 UTC
Hey of course I don't mind the comments - comments are always welcome! And I'm glad you enjoyed the post.

I sort of get what you mean about Kara's background religious issues, but I think it's sort of reasonable in terms of her character. I don't think it's something she likes about herself or is comfortable with, but it's scarred into her, like fear.

I feel for you with Boomer - if she were my favourite I think I'd be feeling pretty shafted right about now.

I'm torn on Lucy Lawless, though. I really like the character and I'm enjoying the story arc, but I do suspect that it's cutting down on Six's storytime. Maybe considering the way she just got ditched, Caprica will become a more active agent - especially since Lucy Lawless' stint as a regular will be over soon...

I feel a little odd about the cliffhanger. It does what it's meant to in that I have NO idea how they'll get out of it, but it's certainly lacking in the tension department because I really don't believe that he'll nuke the planet at this point.

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asta77 December 18 2006, 03:19:14 UTC
Did it not occur to ANYONE that the Eye of Jupiter might be the big, red circle in a blindingly obvious place? I was looking at that the whole time thinking, "Yeah, but that can't be it, cos that'd be too obvious..."

Ya know, they kept focusing on the damn thing, yet I too thought it was too obvious. I think it was nyuszi who I was having the discussion with how they would get out of the nuking situation. I hypothisized that Tyrol pushes the center the same time the nukes are fired and disables them, puts up a shield, something that saves their asses. Of course I'd rather have Adama NOT nuking his family, but it could create some nice Lee/Adama tension and Laura pointing out that she was thinking of him the entire time and...I'll stop now. ;)

I'm no expert either, but I sensed a lot of problems with the explanation of the supernova. The only thing that seemed right was that you couldn't predict exactly when it would happen.

But it strikes me that her entire faith is hollow, learned from her mother, based on obediance and fear more ( ... )

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beccatoria December 18 2006, 18:50:38 UTC
Lee called Dee Anastacia?

...err...no...that would be me accidentally minorly spoiling people reading the post due to having just watched the most recent video blog. Edited into oblivion now...

Hmmm, interesting. I don't 100% agree because I think she does truly believe in higher powers and that they can have a positive force in your life. Since her life has been so crappy she has to believe there is something more than this existence, something better. Yes, but also, she thinks she deserves the punishment of the gods, same as she thinks she deserves the punishment she gets in the military. She needs rules to frak up against, you're right. I think she'd like to disbelieve in the gods, or believe in benevolent gods, but the she can't quite manage it. I'm sure there's also an element of keeping her escape routes open, but I also think there's a real compulsion to keep these traditions. And if, as we've sometimes seen and you say above, she sometimes believes in the positive aspects of the gods and she knows she's screwing up ( ... )

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projectcyborg December 19 2006, 05:05:00 UTC
6. Boomer is sad because Caprica stayed with Gaius after they fell in love in Downloaded, and even got a second girlfriend, while she was stuck playing nursemaid to her better half's child with her new boyfriend who loves her even though she's a cylon. but now Caprica is dumped and they can get back together and be happy!!

7. when Laura said that, I went "well, the Laura/Lee shippers are going to squee!"

8. yes. Roslin pwnz, Adama whines. and praised be Her name, amen!

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beccatoria December 19 2006, 17:32:22 UTC
Boomer is sad because Caprica stayed with Gaius after they fell in love in Downloaded, and even got a second girlfriend, while she was stuck playing nursemaid to her better half's child with her new boyfriend who loves her even though she's a cylon. but now Caprica is dumped and they can get back together and be happy!!

You see, this is what happens when I am away from the girlslash goggles for too long. I fail to notice UTTERLY OBVIOUS THINGS LIKE THIS. How will I cope without the vlog? I am doomed to a life of heterosexual television...

Re: 7. I did. I really did.

Re: 8. Roslin pwnz me. Yes she does. And praised be Her name, amen.

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weissman December 23 2006, 01:58:41 UTC
I agree with you comments on Boomer, very numb, she seems lost.

Maybe the reason Roslin didn't tell Adama about the dead baby swap was excatly the reson we saw, She Knew that Adama wouldn't have allowed it.

Adama: remember Adama lost a child he knows how that feels, he knows that hell. Aside from the fact that no-one has been able to tell me why taking Hera from Sharon and Helo made the fleet any safer, maybe there are some things that Adama just wouldn't do and what Roslin did was one of them. And, yes I do think Adama connection with Sharon (surrogate daughter) has a lot to do with his reaction, Sharon is Adama's friend and he knows that he does truly owe his and everybody elses life to Sharon. Roslin with her action put him in a terrible situation.

Bob W

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beccatoria December 23 2006, 10:21:38 UTC
Maybe the reason Roslin didn't tell Adama about the dead baby swap was excatly the reson we saw, She Knew that Adama wouldn't have allowed it.I never thought she told him, pretty much because, yes, Adama wouldn't have allowed it ( ... )

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weissman December 26 2006, 12:07:56 UTC
Good analysis, I still think that after all the Sharon has done, she is probably more trustworthy then half the crew of the Galactica at this point (RM has pretty come out and said that Sharon is on the side of the humans for good). Plus if the humans have any chance of surviving, those chances go up exponentially with Sharon's help, (as eveidenced by the episode PAS), Adama realizes this only too well, and it probably adds to his anger over the baby swap.

I agree Adama goes out of his way for his friends, i.e, burning up a ton of fuel looking for Kara in season I.

After everything though, I still think Hera would have been better off and safer with Sharon and Helo.

Bob

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nightxade February 20 2007, 16:51:51 UTC
I thought Adama was in on the switch? Note that when Adama confronted Roslin, he specifically demanded to know if she had the baby "in plain sight." I gathered from this that it was the security issue of not hiding the baby as planned. Consequently, the Cylons recognized the baby and took it and then passed on this information to Athena. Adama then has to deal with the fact that he has a Cylon on board whom he has come to trust very much, but it is now revealed to her that the trust she has given to him has been unjustified because he has been a part of an ultimate betrayal.

As for his level of sympathy at losing a child - yes he can sympathize there, but he argues that their child is alive. What use is that when they are not being allowed to see her, especially when they have heard she is sick? Add to that the immense betrayal of the entire situation... much more weighing in here than a not-so-dead baby.

Now. What I would like to see is how a reunion between Hera and Roslin would play out.

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