Drew: Love is a bitch, ain't it? I wish things were the way they used to be. Me: The nature of reality is impermanent. Nothing is eternal; it is foolish to cling to the past. Me: All life is suffering. Drew: But why? Me: Desire is the cause of all suffering. Drew: Is there a way out? Me: Yes...there remains hope. Drew: Please wise master, tell me what I must do?! Me: In order to release the energies of desire and self, you must follow the eightfold path. Then you can achieve enlightenment through Nirvana, joining the impermanence. Drew: I'm too lazy to do that, what's your main point? Me: Desire is the cause of your problems. You must let go of these lusts and your bloated sense of self. Only then will you be truly happy.
This is a shining example of how the concept of Buddha is misunderstood. We are all Buddha. Buddha is an essential part of human nature; one cannot exist without the other. But regarding Siddartha Gautama, yeah he's dead.
no, buddha is not an essential part of human nature. buddha, zen, chi, the bundle theory of personhood, gong, garden, human nature, chow mein... they're all terms applied to a stupidly mystical system of thought to make it sound less stupid. the only good thing out of the far east is crab wontons and the fact that buddha is dead. am i misunderstanding a truly enlightening state of mind? no. is it just a crappy, poorly substantiated conceptual scheme in the first place? absolutely.
yes i will. i was looking at a statue of buddha outside a buffet, and i suddenly had a violent seizure, and when i woke up, i was covered in my own urine and vomit, and all i could see was the fat, lecherous, grinning face of the buddha staring down at me. i knew at that moment that i would forever fight in the name of anti-buddhism
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I appreciate your intellectual discourse on the matter, but I found some faults in your conception of the Buddhist philosophy, especially regarding bundle theory. The Buddhist perspective basically means you cannot explain the unity of consciousness by referring to the self. The self does not exist. If you find their ways lacking substance, than I cannot see how you can find substance in any other religion.
that would be a good point if i had made any mention of me finding substance in another religion. ..but i didn't. i don't practice any religion at all, unless if you want to consider worshipping myself and everything i stand for a religion
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Actually, I'm not passing judgment on your way of life, nor trying to convince you to fit into the "mold of a religion" through discourse and reason. I am merely pointing out flaws in your conception of Buddhism, not your religious philosophy.
I thoroughly enjoyed this discussion, mainly because it is intellectual masturbation. Maybe later we can discuss the ineptitude of Roman Catholic Church, or perhaps pick my choice of food tomorrow morning.
Me: The nature of reality is impermanent. Nothing is eternal; it is foolish to cling to the past.
Me: All life is suffering.
Drew: But why?
Me: Desire is the cause of all suffering.
Drew: Is there a way out?
Me: Yes...there remains hope.
Drew: Please wise master, tell me what I must do?!
Me: In order to release the energies of desire and self, you must follow the eightfold path. Then you can achieve enlightenment through Nirvana, joining the impermanence.
Drew: I'm too lazy to do that, what's your main point?
Me: Desire is the cause of your problems. You must let go of these lusts and your bloated sense of self. Only then will you be truly happy.
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am i misunderstanding a truly enlightening state of mind? no. is it just a crappy, poorly substantiated conceptual scheme in the first place? absolutely.
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I thoroughly enjoyed this discussion, mainly because it is intellectual masturbation. Maybe later we can discuss the ineptitude of Roman Catholic Church, or perhaps pick my choice of food tomorrow morning.
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