Levels of Shipping: Defcon 4

[badboy_fangirl]

We Could Have Had It All (But You Played It To The Beat) ‘Ships

This is a step down from the Levels of Shipping: Defcon 5 (which you can see here if you missed it). These are ships that, according to leobrat, you loved, and adored, but if it ended up not working out, you didn’t turn off life for a month

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[distant_autumn]

These are ships that, according to leobrat, you loved, and adored, but if it ended up not working out, you didnít turn off life for a month.

Ha! Oh, the joys and perils of shipping. It's so true, though. Some of them (fortunately not many) really do temporarily DESTROY YOUR LIFE ZOMG. And when I say temporarily, obviously I mean "often for a several year period". Heh.

And oh, Sawyer/Kate! As you know, I loved them too. And yeah, I'd put them in the same shipping category as you.

My experience with this show included a ferocious love of this ship, definitely as my OTP because I had a few other ships, like Jack/Juliet (they just made sense, didn't they???) and Boone/Shannon (dirty!wrong!bad!ship). Eventually I got onboard with Sawyer/Juliet, because while they were both of my favorite characters, my emotional investment with Sawyer/Kate made it difficult to accept.

I'm completely with you on all of the above. And oh, Jack/Juliet! Sigh. Yes, they did make perfect sense. Like you, I was eventually fine with S/J but yeah. I will always believe that it should've been S/K and J/J with S/J and (ugh) J/K as brief stops along the way.

And, for the record, I still don't understand the Jack/Kate ship. No chemistry, no heat, no reason why they should be together.

Again, I agree so much with all of this. All of it. Meh, meh, a thousand times meh. I adore Kate but that should've been a relationship she grew past. I get the hows and whys of it happening in the first place, I get it as a necessary step on her journey, but it should never have been her ending.

I take my solace in the fact that Jack died on the Island and Kate and Sawyer got off it together. They spent their earthly lives together, and then had their reunions with their other partners after that. I can live with that.

Yep. Exactly why I'm okay with it, even though I will always believe it should've ended with K/S.

It's also interesting with shipping how sometimes ships shift from one category to another for me. There are ships that had they gone wrong at a certain point in time, I know would've totally emotionally devastated me in a completely embarrassing way, but which by the end I'd either moved to saner levels of shipping or just gradually stopped caring at all about. And then there have been other ships where I was so uninvested for most of the run of something and then suddenly shifted into genuine emotional attachment. Ah, the struggles of being a fangirl! :D

[badboy_fangirl]

As much as it pains me about Sawyer/Kate, I have such consternation over Jack and Juliet--simply because the writers had a gold mine there and they just didn't do anything with it! There is a scene in S5 where Juliet marches into the bathroom to rip a strip off Jack as he's GETTING OUT OF THE SHOWER. I mean, WTF? That was the hottest Jack ever had on the show, at least for me. I just imagine them all in the writers room, and I wonder at the fool who kept insisting that Jack and Kate were endgame? Whoever that person was couldn't see the treasures before them. So stupid.

The other reason I'm sure that Kate and Sawyer lived their earthly life together: their AMAZING sparks in the Sideways 'Verse. So good. I will always love them, so much.

[distant_autumn]

I wasn't sure whether or not to still get caught up on my replies to you or not, what with your goodbye post, because I figured you might want to make a clean break of it and might not want people sending more fannish comments your way...? Anyway, in the end I (obviously, LOL!) decided to still reply, but feel free to not reply back if you don't want to. :)

I have such consternation over Jack and Juliet--simply because the writers had a gold mine there and they just didn't do anything with it!

I know, right? They had all that potential right there in front of them with J/J and instead they just chose to waste it. Truly baffling.

I just imagine them all in the writers room, and I wonder at the fool who kept insisting that Jack and Kate were endgame? Whoever that person was couldn't see the treasures before them. So stupid.

I know we're talking about J/J here not S/K, but I always loved that quote from Damon's mother just before the finale aired where she was all "...and Kate will end up with Sawyer, if my son has a heart." Like, EVEN HIS MOTHER KNEW. She totally got this kind of stuff! How did he not see it, with both S/K and J/J? Much as I adore Lost, I will never get that. Said it before, will say it again: I get J/K as a necessary part of each of their journeys, but they should never in a million years have stuck with it as endgame. Ah, well.

The other reason I'm sure that Kate and Sawyer lived their earthly life together: their AMAZING sparks in the Sideways 'Verse. So good. I will always love them, so much.

Yep, totally agree.

[badboy_fangirl]

I never knew that tidbit about Damon's mother. Someday I'll meet this man and I will say: YOU SHOULD ALWAYS LISTEN TO YOUR MOTHER. Egad. It's insanity when I dwell upon it too long. Like honestly. There is this one moment in the final episode...or the second to the final episode, I can't even remember where Kate just puts her head on Sawyer's shoulder and it's like...heart meltingly perfect. Like, her head should always be RIGHT THERE. Because that's where she belongs.

Honestly, I if could have more conversations like this more often, I'd be more likely to stick around. But that's part of the trouble, blue moons and what have you. Ah, well.

[distant_autumn]

I never knew that tidbit about Damon's mother. Someday I'll meet this man and I will say: YOU SHOULD ALWAYS LISTEN TO YOUR MOTHER.

Isn't it a great little quote? I've always loved it. And yup, I know, right?! Like, SERIOUSLY.

There is this one moment in the final episode...or the second to the final episode, I can't even remember where Kate just puts her head on Sawyer's shoulder and it's like...heart meltingly perfect. Like, her head should always be RIGHT THERE. Because that's where she belongs.

Yeah, I know exactly the moment you mean and yup, that moment gave me the same feeling. Whenever I think about this whole thing too much my head kind of explodes because... yeah. They were so meant to be. And then of course my brain just circles back around to my conviction that they lived out their lives together off the island, because they so totally did. But still. Damon, just do like Candy says and listen to your mother in the future. Gah.

Honestly, I if could have more conversations like this more often, I'd be more likely to stick around. But that's part of the trouble, blue moons and what have you. Ah, well

Aww, Candy :( I still very much hope this does end up being a fannish hiatus for you and wish you weren't feeling this way about fandom and so forth. And I'm sure you already know this and I don't even need to say it, but even if you don't ever want to come back fully, if you ever want to just randomly chat about fannish things, be it Lost or TVD or even Sunset Beach(!) you know where I am :).