Oh, I agree. In fact, I expect something from Damon in s3 that pretty much shows his shock at how awful Stefan is as a ripper. Once Stefan is found (or maybe said to Alaric or Elena), I would love to hear Damon basically apologize for trying to get Stefan on human blood because he didn't understand; it's not that way for him. Not that it's fault -- Stefan should have told him, but in that it would show how far Damon has come in turning his own humanity on.
Another thing that I was thinking of today, Stefan is as old a vampire as Damon is. According to Rose, at about this age, the humanity switch stops working. So, if Stefan can't turn his humanity switch off to be Klaus' hunting buddy, what's going to happen? Hmm.............
Well, and on a deeper level, is it just Stefan who has this kind of problem (are there some who are pre-dispositioned to it, say, like alcoholics), or is it because he would go for long stretches without? I mean, Damon has his crazy moments, and certainly with his humanity switch flipped he would be more inclined to go on a "murderous rampage" but for the most part, he's not a nutbar all the time, and we've never seen him do something like what Klaus said Stefan did. As Damon says in "Miss Mystic Falls," Stefan should have been learning to control it, or is control for someone like Stefan only possible through complete abstinence?
Well, if they go with that original side for Rose and the idea of it, then it is definitely a case of some vampires are pre-disposed to be that way, like addicts. And that's certainly how Paul said he plays Stefan on blood, as an addict.
ETA: I mean, sure he drank human blood throughout the season BUT based on what we saw, it was practically non-existence disguised as moderation disguised. A few pinprinks of blood from Elena's finger? A few random sips from a blood bag? That's just nothing.
And that's certainly how Paul said he plays Stefan on blood, as an addict. And he did it so well, I have to say. We've only beat this dead horse, but I simply adore him in that scene with Elena when she tells him she knows about the blood--which was why I could correct the recap on it because to me, that was the moment when I loved Paul Wesley for being such an amazing actor.
I mean, sure he drank human blood throughout the season BUT based on what we saw, it was practically non-existence disguised as moderation disguised. I agree--and then when he sucked down the whole blood bag in "The Last Day," and seemed to be fine, I thought, okay, they gradually moved it up a little, so then in the scene with Klaus, one bag would probably have been okay, but three? Six? Twenty? forgetaboutit.
I've been thinking a lot about Stefan's past. I get so sick of the whole Damon's evil- stefan's past isn't as bad as what Damon's done- nope. Sorry. I Have never believed that. They are both dark and twisty. Both have been monsters- and I think that Stefan is an absolute addict- and has gone "off the wagon" many times but I believe that he hasn't in the last 50 years or so... But that it's always been there- lurking like any addiction
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I think with Damon as the anger built inside him towards Stefan, he just shut off his feelings. I don't know that he ever killed more than he needed to survive, though he did enjoy the hunt or the ploy of laying in the road until someone stopped. All the same a couple of people here and there between girls he seduced for their blood (and then compelled them to forget) is way different than what Stefan has admitted to doing
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Re: the Boarding House. I got the impression that Damon had a larger claim on the BH than Stefan. Doesn't Zack say something to Damon about it being Damon's house? Plus, Damon is the one who hands the deed over to Elena. He's the one who knew where the papers were. I can't really see Damon having it built though, and I seem to remember Stefan saying that it wasn't done yet back in 1864--which suggests it was either under construction or was built later. It would make sense for Giuseppe to have at least started construction on it, since taking boarders seemed to be something that the Salvatores would do. IDK. I wish the show would clear that up for us.
Yeah, I think it's got the potential of being about so much more than trying to rescue Stefan from Klaus--it's got the potential of making Damon and Stefan's relationship much more interesting--if it's explored correctly.
You are so right. What gets me every time though is that Stefan's guilt is ALWAYS mixed with the need/urge to pass it on to Damon.
I rewatched 1x22 (becuase aparantly, I think it's july :)). The scene after the fire but before THE KISS TO END ALL KISSES. Bonnie is talking to Stefan. And there is a conversation between Elena and Stefan. In stead of ANY of the talk being about how Bonnie lied and put both Damon and Stefan in danger AND had a hand in the accident (by not de activating the device)... BOTH of the conversations are about what a bad person Damon is. I hadn't noticed it before. But now it really stood out.
Even after Damon had thanked Bonnie (words are more Stefan's thing, but Damon still did this). Even after Damon almost burned alive and Anna died. While Damon was trying to help Jeremy. The topic of conversation between Elena and Stefan was how Stefan was trying to hate Damon. And in stead of telling Bonnie that lying is not nice, Stefan was mister understanding with her. Excuse me? What did I miss?
I have a theory about this too--I think it's Stefan's way of trying to be more human--to be so extreme, and not to call Bonnie on her bad behavior. He's looking at it like whatever Bonnie (or any human) does it will never be as bad as what Damon (or any vampire) does or is capable of, so he doesn't reprimand her--but remember that Elena does in 2x02 when Bonnie's trying to burn Damon to a crisp, she steps in and says, "This isn't who WE are
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Stefan is messed up. But I would still like it if the writers stopped pegging Damon is the bad one. They both have mayor issues. The difference is that Damon is used to dealing with things alone. Stefan has had help.
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Another thing that I was thinking of today, Stefan is as old a vampire as Damon is. According to Rose, at about this age, the humanity switch stops working. So, if Stefan can't turn his humanity switch off to be Klaus' hunting buddy, what's going to happen? Hmm.............
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ETA: I mean, sure he drank human blood throughout the season BUT based on what we saw, it was practically non-existence disguised as moderation disguised. A few pinprinks of blood from Elena's finger? A few random sips from a blood bag? That's just nothing.
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And he did it so well, I have to say. We've only beat this dead horse, but I simply adore him in that scene with Elena when she tells him she knows about the blood--which was why I could correct the recap on it because to me, that was the moment when I loved Paul Wesley for being such an amazing actor.
I mean, sure he drank human blood throughout the season BUT based on what we saw, it was practically non-existence disguised as moderation disguised.
I agree--and then when he sucked down the whole blood bag in "The Last Day," and seemed to be fine, I thought, okay, they gradually moved it up a little, so then in the scene with Klaus, one bag would probably have been okay, but three? Six? Twenty? forgetaboutit.
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I rewatched 1x22 (becuase aparantly, I think it's july :)). The scene after the fire but before THE KISS TO END ALL KISSES. Bonnie is talking to Stefan. And there is a conversation between Elena and Stefan. In stead of ANY of the talk being about how Bonnie lied and put both Damon and Stefan in danger AND had a hand in the accident (by not de activating the device)... BOTH of the conversations are about what a bad person Damon is. I hadn't noticed it before. But now it really stood out.
Even after Damon had thanked Bonnie (words are more Stefan's thing, but Damon still did this). Even after Damon almost burned alive and Anna died. While Damon was trying to help Jeremy. The topic of conversation between Elena and Stefan was how Stefan was trying to hate Damon. And in stead of telling Bonnie that lying is not nice, Stefan was mister understanding with her. Excuse me? What did I miss?
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These boys....
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