Depression

Aug 02, 2009 23:58

Any advice for a teen battling depression? My Aunt suspects I am, and she is right, I AM. But I don't want her or my parents to know because they are already worried because I don't eat as much as I should. No breakfast, small lunch, maybe dinner. I am not suicidal or anyting, but I do know I am depressed. I have tried figuring out why, because ( Read more... )

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Re: Depression: "Feeling Sad" vs. "Being a Teenager" vs. "Unipolar Mood Disorder" d_rec_ks August 4 2009, 03:38:22 UTC
Wow, thanks for the really thought out reply. I am sick of being written off about being depressed because im a teenager. yeah, I understand that being occasionally depressed as a teen is normal, especially if I am a gay teen. The thing is I don't feel bad because I am gay. The hunger thing? I am not sure. I am never hungry. I will think about food, say "Hey, I havent eaten today" and still won't be hungry. My favorite foods are just, eh, food. Nothing special anymore. Sleep. Well, at night I am EXHAUStED, but I can never fall asleep when I lay down. I end up pacing my room most nights. It takes awhile to wake up, but that's kind of my normal. HA! Is my libido off? Yep. Sometimes I take blame for event that I couldnt control. Not things I have nothing to do with, but like things that happen that I think I could somehow prevent. I used to draw and read all of the time, but now I feel no want to pick up a pencil or a book. Even cooking has become slightly tedious, when it used to be my greatest passion. As far as happiness goes, I CAN be happy, but for short periods of time, and then I don't anymore. Its like there is an imaginary wall seperating me from everyone, and I am no longer part of the crowd or something. Its never like wanting to hurt myself or suicide, but I just don't feel happy like I should. Plus, I am really fragile. Things that used to not brother cause me to want to break down or scream and get pissed... So, I don't know what it is.

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Re: Depression: "Feeling Sad" vs. "Being a Teenager" vs. "Unipolar Mood Disorder" dansupertramp August 4 2009, 07:51:01 UTC
I experience a lot of what your saying on a daily basis. I'll go through entire days and just not eat because I can't bear to spend 20 mins in the kitchen to eat "bleh" food. What's helped somewhat recently, to snap out of this numb trance, is being mindful of what I'm thinking throughout the day. Your thinking patterns determine how you feel, sometimes they can cause you to feel down and you don't even realize they are the direct cause of your negative feelings. I find pretty much everything to be pretty bland, but there are a lot of things that I am scared to do. Tackling the scary parts of your life or just being mindful might be what you need to get a more positive perspective on your whole situation.

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Re: Depression: "Feeling Sad" vs. "Being a Teenager" vs. "Unipolar Mood Disorder" kaji_kun August 4 2009, 18:51:55 UTC
Did someone actually suggest something other than drugs? amazing.

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Re: Depression: "Feeling Sad" vs. "Being a Teenager" vs. "Unipolar Mood Disorder" _candide_ August 5 2009, 02:52:15 UTC
Actually, I was going to bring that up.

In most cases, drugs are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overprescribed.

Ironically, those with a Unipolar Mood Disorder are the least likely to seek out medication. Indeed, the nature of the disorder causes one to avoid the very medication(s) that would aleviate the disorder.

It's as if diabetes caused diabetics to actively avoid insulin.

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Re: Depression: "Feeling Sad" vs. "Being a Teenager" vs. "Unipolar Mood Disorder" _candide_ August 5 2009, 02:47:29 UTC
What you're describing, dansupertramp, is an excellent example of Good Mental Hygiene.

Just as poor physical hygiene worsens your physical health, poor mental hygiene worsens your mental health.

What d_rec_ks has described is a completely different beast. Practicing Good Mental Hygiene may help prevent his symptoms from getting worse (or, at least, prevent a decline from accelerating). But it won't improve his symptoms any more than good physical hygiene will cause an untreated diabetic to start producing insulin.

This is why my subject is, "Depression: 'Feeling Sad' vs. 'Being a Teenager' vs. 'Unipolar Mood Disorder'". The last one, the Unipolar Mood Disorder, is highly-resistant to internal attempts to thwart it and behaves randomly to external stimuli. That's (part of) what makes it a disorder, not magnitude or severity.

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Re: Depression: "Feeling Sad" vs. "Being a Teenager" vs. "Unipolar Mood Disorder" _candide_ August 5 2009, 03:28:58 UTC
All of the questions that I asked you, d_rec_ks, are for the common symptoms of a Unipolar Mood Disorder:
  • Loss of libido.
  • Loss of appetite.
  • Disrupted sleep patterns, or total disappearance of any sleep pattern.
  • Lack or loss of motivation.
  • "Inappropriate" feelings of guilt. ("Inappropriate" meaning that the things you're feeling guilty about are not things you caused or could have possible caused.)
  • Loss of interest in things that were once pleasurable. (Or, as I put it, losing the ability to feel pleasure, so that you're just going through the motions.)
  • Positive events, funny things, etc. have little to no effect, or don't last as long as they do in others.
  • Very low self-esteem (Or as I've quipped, "I am the Lowest of the Low and Source of All Evil in the Universe®.")
  • And, of course, "feeling blue". Or, as I put it, you don't feel better than, "Eh, ok I guess."
  • And, in severe or perniciously-chronic cases, suicidal ideation.
(These may not exactly match the DSM-IV listing, but they're what I use to check myself.)

You have most of them. Therefore, by what I recall of the DSM-IV's definition, you're suffering from a Unipolar Mood Disorder.

The appropriate course of action is the same course of action you'd take if you suddenly lost all feeling in your left arm: seek medical attention from the appropriate specialist. For the numb left-arm, you'd go to an orthopedist. For the Unipolar Mood Disorder, you'll see a psychiatrist (for medication management) and/or a psychologist/licensed social worker (for cognitive therapy and symptom monitoring).

As for antidepressants: they do not make you feel happy.

Antidepressants relieve most of the symptoms (that I listed above) in most of the people most of the time. Different ones work better for different brains. They take time to work - 2 weeks to a month.

And they don't alleviate all of the symptoms all at once. They may relieve your loss of appetite before your loss of interest in pleasurable activities. Or they could improve your motivation first. (Consider this: someone's in the throes of a major episode, with suicidality. She's prescribed an antidepressant. The first symptom that this antidepressant relieves for her just so happens to be the loss-of-motivation one. So, now, she's still has suicidal thoughts, but has her motivation back. Uh Oh!) Or, one may alleviate only half of the symptoms, or half-alleviate all of the symptoms. In that case, you may want to try switching to a different medication.

These complexities and nuances are why you want to see a mental-health practitioner.

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Re: Depression: "Feeling Sad" vs. "Being a Teenager" vs. "Unipolar Mood Disorder" _candide_ August 5 2009, 03:33:37 UTC
BTW: What you describe as being "really fragile," may be what I called elsewhere, "random reaction to external stimuli." The magnitude of your reaction is far, far greater than the magnitude and import of the event. And which event, "sets you off," has no rhyme or reason to it, no pattern, no cause-and-effect.

That, at least, is what happens to me when my Unipolar Mood Disorder comes out of remission.

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