This is why I loved his 2012 reviews so much. They were darker and smarter and involved tons of foreshadowing that he was feeling genuinely suicidal. Just look at "The Third Nostalgia Critic Fuck-Ups", where he looks so tired in the beginning and breaks down so hard in the end that even Douchey feels bad for him. What the fuck is his conflict going to be now? He's always been less villains like Linkara and more self-hate.
Kat and I used to plot Psycho!Rob gaslighting Doug into sex every night *shudders* Good god ... just thinking about that makes me want to hide under the bed ... so good, but so terrifying ...
(well, that's the usual, gangbangs and hookers and plenty of slut shaming pop up too) Is it slut-shaming if we love him for his sluttiness? Or did you mean the other characters are slut-shaming him?
I don't think I'll be in the right mindset to do that for a while without getting too vindictive. Yeah, that's understandable. I'm sticking with my "Demo Reel cast space adventures" fic. I like that idea of an "ending." Might go back to it, Donnie seducing aliens for rides to new planets and Rebecca being made Queen of some alien race and Tacoma writing everything down and Quinn filming it all and Carl and Quinn trying every alien drink they can find and learning about new alien weapons ... yes.
Or did you mean the other characters are slut-shaming him?
That's the one. Example for you, try and cheer us both up. [25/11/2012 00:49:16] Katrina P: "and you liked it" [25/11/2012 00:49:23] Katrina P: "what? no no no i didn't-" [25/11/2012 00:49:24] Katrina P: "you did" [25/11/2012 00:49:45] Emmeline Wells: "you moaned like a hooker, dude" [25/11/2012 00:51:27] Katrina P: "you moaned like a hooker while sucking your brother's dick, but that's okay. i still love you." [25/11/2012 00:53:46] Emmeline Wells: "and not many people would, you know that" [25/11/2012 00:54:37] Katrina P: "it takes a special kind of person to do it" [25/11/2012 00:54:43] Katrina P: and Doug just keeps staring [25/11/2012 00:54:54] Katrina P: shellshocked [25/11/2012 00:55:23] Katrina P: "It's fine, it's really fine. You just need someone to - to calm you down occasionally." [25/11/2012 00:55:50] Katrina P: "Before you get so horny you'll be strutting around behind the 7-11" [25/11/2012 00:56:36] Emmeline Wells: "before someone rapes you for real" [25/11/2012 00:57:37] Katrina P: "But didn't you - and they - " [25/11/2012 00:57:49] Katrina P: "No no, of course not! We'd never. I'd never do that to you." [25/11/2012 00:58:23] Emmeline Wells: "I've been looking after you since we were kids :)" [25/11/2012 00:58:55] Katrina P: "So that's what I did. I just - looked after you" [25/11/2012 00:59:07] Katrina P: "... ... thank you" [25/11/2012 00:59:10] Katrina P: almost a question [25/11/2012 00:59:58] Emmeline Wells: and Rob kisses him on the cheek "and you just be good in return ;)" [25/11/2012 01:00:39] Katrina P: There's a sort of suggestion in the air [25/11/2012 01:01:00] Katrina P: It's implied that Doug owes Rob for... something, he doesn't like to think back to that time in that room [25/11/2012 01:01:10] Katrina P: "... want me to do it again?" [25/11/2012 01:02:00] Emmeline Wells: is this Rob or Doug saying that? [25/11/2012 01:02:09] Katrina P: Doug [25/11/2012 01:02:44] Katrina P: he's changed it in his head - he wasn't MADE to do it, he DID it [25/11/2012 01:02:52] Katrina P: because it's big brother. [25/11/2012 01:02:56] Katrina P: who wouldn't MAKE him [25/11/2012 01:02:56] Emmeline Wells: safer that way [25/11/2012 01:03:31] Katrina P: "Yes. I'd like that" [25/11/2012 01:03:38] Katrina P: and Doug willingly gets under the covers [25/11/2012 01:06:08] Katrina P: and does those tricks with his mouth that he didn't do before [25/11/2012 01:06:18] Katrina P: He's quiet though so Rob asks him to make some noise [25/11/2012 01:06:22] Katrina P: That makes it perfect [25/11/2012 01:07:24] Emmeline Wells: and he's just so glad he has a brother who craves attention [25/11/2012 01:09:00] Katrina P: And Doug doesn't even know but tucked away in his mind there's building anger [25/11/2012 01:10:05] Katrina P: But the hypersexuality gets switched on [25/11/2012 01:10:11] Katrina P: Focused mainly on Rob [25/11/2012 01:10:17] Katrina P: He goes to Rob now willingly [25/11/2012 01:10:21] Katrina P: Because why not [25/11/2012 01:11:47] Emmeline Wells: someone wants him [25/11/2012 01:12:57] Katrina P: And if Rob brings in some more interested people for a repeat, Doug SNAPS [25/11/2012 01:13:01] Katrina P: Screams and fights [25/11/2012 01:13:10] Katrina P: NOT AGAIN [25/11/2012 01:13:54] Emmeline Wells: is this the out or does he get overpowered? [25/11/2012 01:14:06] Katrina P: overpowered of course
I don't know if that was cathartic or horrifying. Leaning towards "horrifying."
Then again, last night I wrote Donnie getting tentacle-grabbed by the Plot Hole and joking about hentai and making out with Uncle Yo that one time ... so clearly I've got some issues to work through here.
Dammit, now I want to write actual Donnie/tentacle aliens fic. THIS IS WHAT YOU DO TO ME, EM! THIS IS WHAT YOU DO TO ME!
Donnie is the sacrifice to the planet's tentacled overlords. The gang has to save him, but Quinn and Carl get captured so Rebecca and Tacoma have to save the day. And they get to see the first part of the "ceremony" and get a little distracted because Donnie seems to be kinda into the whole thing ... and then they save him because he's their director and the aliens were gonna eat him afterwards or something.
He wanted slash!fic remember. Tentacles are phallic, it counts.
Actually, if the ending wasn't utter bullshit and Critic getting derailed into villain when just last month he was doing the best he could to help, I'd be amused that he was a Clingy Jealous Boy to even his creator. "You're mine, don't do that other thing!"
He wanted slash!fic remember. Tentacles are phallic, it counts. *nods* Oh yes.
Actually, if the ending wasn't utter bullshit and Critic getting derailed into villain when just last month he was doing the best he could to help Yeah, seriously, WTF?!?!??!!
I'd be amused that he was a Clingy Jealous Boy to even his creator. "You're mine, don't do that other thing!" *snerk* I know, right? Doesn't make sense after his meeting with The Writer at the end of TBF, but as a story idea, the character being clingy and jealous? *sporfles*
I don't get it. At all. You saw his smile when he merged with the plothole, he was happy to finally be at peace. And this analyzing from Doug - "That there might be something out there where finally all the stuff that's made him selfish, maybe that'll go away and he can be a good person somewhere else, maybe he can start over." - is now completely fucked over.
I was talking about it tonight at dinner with two of my friends. One hadn't seen The Review Must Go On and hasn't seen a lot of the NC stuff, the other had seen all of the stuff. We arrived at the conclusion that perhaps Doug fighting with Psychotic!Hallucination!Critic was in fact a personification of all the people who hated Demo Reel, and him trying to be "see, this is what you are to me, this is what you've done to me, made me crazy and tired and forced me back into the NC hat and coat" ... but nobody caught on and were all like "yay, Demo Reel sucked, the Critic is back!" and so it's a private joke the intended audience isn't getting. Hence people who liked Demo Reel, or were ok with the Critic's sendoff, feel the video was bitter and mean-spirited. It was supposed to be.
Maybe it's a Director Revolt instead of the usual Writer. Rob wrote it as a "fun farewell", and Doug directed and acted it like it was some kind of horror tragedy.
Oh god ... that could possibly explain it ... Doug sure seemed to be acting and filming it like it was a horror tragedy, at least to my eyes. Rob's insistence that it was "fun" strikes me as highly bizarre.
Is this the set up to some elaborate joke, or twist, or something? Are we ahead of it or in on it or being taken in by it?
... I can't trust them right now. Not until the first new NC episode, at least.
I just don't think I can trust either of them at all. Doug was so happy about TBF's end, even if he didn't write it he could at least have fought the bit that screwed it all over, including those big speeches about his character evolving boner.
Indeed. Which is why a part of me is hoping this is all some big joke or twist or "psych! That was a dig at everyone who said Demo Reel sucked!" or something. I don't believe they'd do that, but part of me is hoping they did.
Because ripping up TBF like that ... just doesn't make sense. They could have done so many things instead. Had the Plot Hole spit the Critic out. Have it stabilized. Have him come out every two weeks to do a review before going back to keeping the universe stable. Something. Anything but what they did.
Kat and I used to plot Psycho!Rob gaslighting Doug into sex every night
*shudders* Good god ... just thinking about that makes me want to hide under the bed ... so good, but so terrifying ...
(well, that's the usual, gangbangs and hookers and plenty of slut shaming pop up too)
Is it slut-shaming if we love him for his sluttiness? Or did you mean the other characters are slut-shaming him?
I don't think I'll be in the right mindset to do that for a while without getting too vindictive.
Yeah, that's understandable.
I'm sticking with my "Demo Reel cast space adventures" fic. I like that idea of an "ending." Might go back to it, Donnie seducing aliens for rides to new planets and Rebecca being made Queen of some alien race and Tacoma writing everything down and Quinn filming it all and Carl and Quinn trying every alien drink they can find and learning about new alien weapons ... yes.
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That's the one. Example for you, try and cheer us both up.
[25/11/2012 00:49:16] Katrina P: "and you liked it"
[25/11/2012 00:49:23] Katrina P: "what? no no no i didn't-"
[25/11/2012 00:49:24] Katrina P: "you did"
[25/11/2012 00:49:45] Emmeline Wells: "you moaned like a hooker, dude"
[25/11/2012 00:51:27] Katrina P: "you moaned like a hooker while sucking your brother's dick, but that's okay. i still love you."
[25/11/2012 00:53:46] Emmeline Wells: "and not many people would, you know that"
[25/11/2012 00:54:37] Katrina P: "it takes a special kind of person to do it"
[25/11/2012 00:54:43] Katrina P: and Doug just keeps staring
[25/11/2012 00:54:54] Katrina P: shellshocked
[25/11/2012 00:55:23] Katrina P: "It's fine, it's really fine. You just need someone to - to calm you down occasionally."
[25/11/2012 00:55:50] Katrina P: "Before you get so horny you'll be strutting around behind the 7-11"
[25/11/2012 00:56:36] Emmeline Wells: "before someone rapes you for real"
[25/11/2012 00:57:37] Katrina P: "But didn't you - and they - "
[25/11/2012 00:57:49] Katrina P: "No no, of course not! We'd never. I'd never do that to you."
[25/11/2012 00:58:23] Emmeline Wells: "I've been looking after you since we were kids :)"
[25/11/2012 00:58:55] Katrina P: "So that's what I did. I just - looked after you"
[25/11/2012 00:59:07] Katrina P: "... ... thank you"
[25/11/2012 00:59:10] Katrina P: almost a question
[25/11/2012 00:59:58] Emmeline Wells: and Rob kisses him on the cheek "and you just be good in return ;)"
[25/11/2012 01:00:39] Katrina P: There's a sort of suggestion in the air
[25/11/2012 01:01:00] Katrina P: It's implied that Doug owes Rob for... something, he doesn't like to think back to that time in that room
[25/11/2012 01:01:10] Katrina P: "... want me to do it again?"
[25/11/2012 01:02:00] Emmeline Wells: is this Rob or Doug saying that?
[25/11/2012 01:02:09] Katrina P: Doug
[25/11/2012 01:02:44] Katrina P: he's changed it in his head - he wasn't MADE to do it, he DID it
[25/11/2012 01:02:52] Katrina P: because it's big brother.
[25/11/2012 01:02:56] Katrina P: who wouldn't MAKE him
[25/11/2012 01:02:56] Emmeline Wells: safer that way
[25/11/2012 01:03:31] Katrina P: "Yes. I'd like that"
[25/11/2012 01:03:38] Katrina P: and Doug willingly gets under the covers
[25/11/2012 01:06:08] Katrina P: and does those tricks with his mouth that he didn't do before
[25/11/2012 01:06:18] Katrina P: He's quiet though so Rob asks him to make some noise
[25/11/2012 01:06:22] Katrina P: That makes it perfect
[25/11/2012 01:07:24] Emmeline Wells: and he's just so glad he has a brother who craves attention
[25/11/2012 01:09:00] Katrina P: And Doug doesn't even know but tucked away in his mind there's building anger
[25/11/2012 01:10:05] Katrina P: But the hypersexuality gets switched on
[25/11/2012 01:10:11] Katrina P: Focused mainly on Rob
[25/11/2012 01:10:17] Katrina P: He goes to Rob now willingly
[25/11/2012 01:10:21] Katrina P: Because why not
[25/11/2012 01:11:47] Emmeline Wells: someone wants him
[25/11/2012 01:12:57] Katrina P: And if Rob brings in some more interested people for a repeat, Doug SNAPS
[25/11/2012 01:13:01] Katrina P: Screams and fights
[25/11/2012 01:13:10] Katrina P: NOT AGAIN
[25/11/2012 01:13:54] Emmeline Wells: is this the out or does he get overpowered?
[25/11/2012 01:14:06] Katrina P: overpowered of course
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I don't know if that was cathartic or horrifying. Leaning towards "horrifying."
Then again, last night I wrote Donnie getting tentacle-grabbed by the Plot Hole and joking about hentai and making out with Uncle Yo that one time ... so clearly I've got some issues to work through here.
Dammit, now I want to write actual Donnie/tentacle aliens fic. THIS IS WHAT YOU DO TO ME, EM! THIS IS WHAT YOU DO TO ME!
Donnie is the sacrifice to the planet's tentacled overlords. The gang has to save him, but Quinn and Carl get captured so Rebecca and Tacoma have to save the day. And they get to see the first part of the "ceremony" and get a little distracted because Donnie seems to be kinda into the whole thing ... and then they save him because he's their director and the aliens were gonna eat him afterwards or something.
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Actually, if the ending wasn't utter bullshit and Critic getting derailed into villain when just last month he was doing the best he could to help, I'd be amused that he was a Clingy Jealous Boy to even his creator. "You're mine, don't do that other thing!"
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*nods* Oh yes.
Actually, if the ending wasn't utter bullshit and Critic getting derailed into villain when just last month he was doing the best he could to help
Yeah, seriously, WTF?!?!??!!
I'd be amused that he was a Clingy Jealous Boy to even his creator. "You're mine, don't do that other thing!"
*snerk* I know, right? Doesn't make sense after his meeting with The Writer at the end of TBF, but as a story idea, the character being clingy and jealous? *sporfles*
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We arrived at the conclusion that perhaps Doug fighting with Psychotic!Hallucination!Critic was in fact a personification of all the people who hated Demo Reel, and him trying to be "see, this is what you are to me, this is what you've done to me, made me crazy and tired and forced me back into the NC hat and coat" ... but nobody caught on and were all like "yay, Demo Reel sucked, the Critic is back!" and so it's a private joke the intended audience isn't getting. Hence people who liked Demo Reel, or were ok with the Critic's sendoff, feel the video was bitter and mean-spirited. It was supposed to be.
... maybe that's what's going on? Maybe?
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Is this the set up to some elaborate joke, or twist, or something? Are we ahead of it or in on it or being taken in by it?
... I can't trust them right now. Not until the first new NC episode, at least.
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Because ripping up TBF like that ... just doesn't make sense. They could have done so many things instead. Had the Plot Hole spit the Critic out. Have it stabilized. Have him come out every two weeks to do a review before going back to keeping the universe stable. Something. Anything but what they did.
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