It's 100% deliberate. I'm sticking to my theory that this is Carver's ~correction of S4/5 and this is a direct parallel for the demon blood storyline. And Crowley is so blatantly the Ruby that I'm almost embarrassed for their lack of subtlety haha. Check out the look between Crowley and Dean while he was holding the blade. I expect a big time doublecross (Crowley and Cain in cahoots to get rid of Abaddon?)
I'm hopeful that the part where Sam talked Dean out of his trance is foreshadowing for him being the one to "save" Dean by leading him out of the darkside at the eventual conclusion of this arc (next season -- surely the cliffhanger will be Dark Dean ala Godstiel)
p.s. I love my boy, but Jensen's lip-acting was terrible :D
p.s.s. I'm betting Lola was a Damn Yankees reference
yes yes, that's what I'm thinking too! And I have to say I'm intrigued to see what the role reversal will look like. Please be awesome!
I gotta say that if Sam doesn't get to save Dean I might just have to CRY! If someone else takes that away from him....*rolls up sleeves*
p.s.: actually, not overly impressed with some of Js the acting in this ep...(*ducks*) p.s.s: I'll have to check that out p.s.s.s. IT HAS TO HAPPEN! (though...MS doesn't really do it for me so can Crowley possess Dean when that happens...? Totally wrong of course but...so YUM!) p.s.s.s.s: Oh my god yes.
I shouldn't even be commenting because I won't actually get to watch the ep till tonight or tomorrow, but I think it's fascinating that at the moment Sam is the closest thing in the major cast to a stable, grounded, species-appropriate (I want to say human, but that doesn't really fit the non-human characters!) self. Dean has the Mark of Cain. Crowley has his addiction, his taint of humanity. And [spoiler from Vegascon]Cas is operating on alien grace, and Misha is said to have said that that was going to be an issue. Despite the fact that Sam in the first half of the season went through the latest in his series of estrangements and violations of selfhood, right now he's in the novel position of being the one who is whole, who is himself. And I think, despite his anger at Dean (and fandom's anger at him!), he's also to some extent found his footing a bit in his relationships. He's come out and said that family isn't necessarily a good thing, that it's been a matrix of damage, that sacrifice can be selfish, that the sacrificer may be using the object of the
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Nicely put! Especially this: I do like that Sam remains hostile to Crowley. Someone should be, for Pete's sake, he's done them more damage than Abaddon. But I also think that Sam might eventually arrive at a point where he could have sympathy for Crowley's painfully hybrid moral state, as well. I saw one reviewer who criticized Sam for being snarky with Crowley. What, really? Crowley has not even come CLOSE to repenting, that's plainly obvious. And sure enough, come the end, *poof* ... off he went with the Holy Jawbone of an Ass.
Oh, also I'd love to see Crowley have to make a choice between saving a Winchester and, say, killing Abaddon and he picks the Winchester. Not that I think they'll go there, but it would be delicious.
[Spoiler (click to open)]Not that this is really a spoiler, since it happened a while ago: Cas doesn't have his own grace, he has the grace he stole from another angel. Apparently Misha said at the con that there would be effects from this. So alien in the sense of not his own.
" There's only so many times can you be surprised, shocked, hurt and dismayed about something. Just get on with solving the problem." That is exactly what I've been thinking and saying about Sam since Dean was whisked off to Purgatory. I think Sam has been barely functioning since that moment because he was just overloaded - 'does not compute...does not compute...' and to a certain extent, he went into shut down and conserve mode. He might have been emerging from that but then was whammied with the Trial-side effects, then Gadreel...
But that doesn't mean that is what the writers think though! I do still worry about them.
Still. This was fun for all the reasons you mention and I was both surprised and thankful when I saw who wrote it - surprised it worked so well and thankful that particular team stayed away from the important emotional threads!
Mmm I'd add Dean to my collection any day, especially with his machete thigh holster. Yum.
I think Sam has been barely functioning since that moment because he was just overloaded
Yes indeed. We had that sense after Dean returned and then after they got back together. The trials seems to give him focus and then he just had to go along for the ride. He seemed ok at the beginning of S9 (but not all him) and now he's just kinda over it all.
surprised it worked so well and thankful that particular team stayed away from the important emotional threads!
Yes! I'm glad they weren't tasked with writing emotional confrontations between the boys.
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I'm hopeful that the part where Sam talked Dean out of his trance is foreshadowing for him being the one to "save" Dean by leading him out of the darkside at the eventual conclusion of this arc (next season -- surely the cliffhanger will be Dark Dean ala Godstiel)
p.s. I love my boy, but Jensen's lip-acting was terrible :D
p.s.s. I'm betting Lola was a Damn Yankees reference
p.s.s.s. Sam and Crowley should have angsty sex
p.s.s.s.S. The whole thing was a Leonidaslion fic
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I gotta say that if Sam doesn't get to save Dean I might just have to CRY! If someone else takes that away from him....*rolls up sleeves*
p.s.: actually, not overly impressed with some of Js the acting in this ep...(*ducks*)
p.s.s: I'll have to check that out
p.s.s.s. IT HAS TO HAPPEN! (though...MS doesn't really do it for me so can Crowley possess Dean when that happens...? Totally wrong of course but...so YUM!)
p.s.s.s.s: Oh my god yes.
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On your final ps - my god I wish it WAS
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Nice to know I wasn't the only one to notice that. :D
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/cryptically lazy spoiler cut
Oh, also I'd love to see Crowley have to make a choice between saving a Winchester and, say, killing Abaddon and he picks the Winchester. Not that I think they'll go there, but it would be delicious.
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*thud*
I'm going to enjoy going through the caps and drooling over the lighting...and Sam. And Dean...;)
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But that doesn't mean that is what the writers think though! I do still worry about them.
Still. This was fun for all the reasons you mention and I was both surprised and thankful when I saw who wrote it - surprised it worked so well and thankful that particular team stayed away from the important emotional threads!
Mmm I'd add Dean to my collection any day, especially with his machete thigh holster. Yum.
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Yes indeed. We had that sense after Dean returned and then after they got back together. The trials seems to give him focus and then he just had to go along for the ride. He seemed ok at the beginning of S9 (but not all him) and now he's just kinda over it all.
surprised it worked so well and thankful that particular team stayed away from the important emotional threads!
Yes! I'm glad they weren't tasked with writing emotional confrontations between the boys.
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