I need to get a life.ascii_70_85May 11 2004, 02:46:13 UTC
Well yeah, but still, some of it is in how it happens. True, I'm still liking the episodes a lot even though I know what happens, because like you said, I don't know how. Lindsey & Lilah are too much fun together, especially when she wears the wire. The best is yet to come ... as far as they're concerned ... A Lindsey episode. I'd be curious what you think such things, if you'd care to 'discuss'.
Those define the blasphemy of last episode. Dru & Darla are supposed to slash, pillage, and destroy. e.g. S2. I agree completely. That was a pathetic showing. It'd be fine, if they were on more regularly, but they're not.
His reaction seems to be a bit over the top. 'Xander' doesn't strike me as being overly stupid, Tijuana's a long way, away. Also I don't get why he says "Angel's my only friend, when Cordelia's sitting right there." Maybe that's just the way he 'swings' as you indicate. I realized afterward I meant Tahiti. My brain is fried, you'll have to excuse any mistakes. No, no excuses {facetiously}. To state the obvious (Tahiti) that's stupid.
But yes, I agree, he sulked a little too much, and he does still have Summer, and would have had Marissa (whatever that was worth) had he not told her off. I like him telling off Marisa he was right to some degree. Marisa has to do something drastic to get back into my good graces. and now she has Tequila. ba-dum-bum. Just what we need {eye-roll}. Not to say that 'Lana' on super-boy is a girl-role-model or anything, but she's more empowered than chicky. I think she might actually get rescued less often. i need sleep. Nah! Just more caffeine, {facetiously}.
Her first mistake is taking 'Damage' seriously. It was stupid, it doesn't deserve serious consideration. True, but that episode hadn't crossed my mind when I watched "TGIQ" (neat little acronym) and I still thought it was stupid. I was referring to the chicky's article, being peeved about discontinuity errors, between stupid 1 and stupid 2. Yeah stupid 2 (TGIQ) had enough stupid to go around, that's why it pisses me off to no end, Like I said 'if you can't be funny, be boring.' It sucks in the short term, but doesn't cheapen the series, or mess with it retroactively. I'm repeating myself, but I did say to 'no end' didn't I?
Besides, "Damage" was creepy & creepy beats funny where this show is concerned (in regard to full episodes, that is). Beg to differ. Good beats bad ... Truly great episodes of the Whedon have it all thrown in a blender, and yet at the same time it all makes sense, perhaps lighter on the funny side usual.
e.g. 'The Zeppo' funny episode, but definitely not cheap or insulting. Better than this season's creep-fest AtS 5.04 "Hell Bound", while admittedly a bit creepy, didn't do much for me. Though last year's 'Conversations with Dead People' did ... it's rare that the Whedon is really creepy. But in the vein of being cheap and shotty, definitely creepy or at least gross is the way to go. It wasn't pleasant to think about a sadistic Slayer going Psycho on Spike, but to the alternative of a 'Smile Time' scenario, I might rather watch the Xander eye scene again w/o turning away, might. Jesus I need to get a life.
we have the 'end-all-be-all' apocalypse to deal with... shouldn't we be building to that or something? {eye-roll}. You'd think, wouldn't you? -joins in the eye-rolling- If Ross and Rachel can get back together w/ 5 secs of prep time, why not churn out the end-all-be-all apocalypse/finale in a few minutes, they can stick it on the :40-:55 minutes of the episode {another obligatory eye-roll}.
Re: I need to get a life.faith21May 13 2004, 04:12:41 UTC
Not to say that 'Lana' on super-boy is a girl-role-model or anything, but she's more empowered than chicky. I think she might actually get rescued less often. And that's a sci-fi show about Superman, whose job is rescuing people.
Truly great episodes of the Whedon have it all thrown in a blender Hush is the great example of this. I wasn't thinking of 'The Zeppo' but that did work. It was funny without silly.
stick girl & A-game Whedon.ascii_70_85May 15 2004, 15:39:17 UTC
Not to say that 'Lana' on super-boy is a girl-role-model or anything, but she's more empowered than chicky. I think she might actually get rescued less often. And that's a sci-fi show about Superman, whose job is rescuing people. {rolls eyes and laughs}. Though sadly, how many young girls are watching this? 'Yes, kids it's okay to be passive and weak as long as you're rail thin.' {smacks-head} -- in which case you'll have to be passive and weak -- it's called anorexia nervosa. Please, tell me I'm wrong, and that young girls aren't watching this, and not like that.
Truly great episodes of the Whedon have it all thrown in a blender Hush is the great example of this. I wasn't thinking of 'The Zeppo' but that did work. It was funny without silly. I was thinking of Zeppo as good example of 'good/funny', but see in the Whedoneque funny can be great too... I'd say 'funny without being dumb.' same difference. Zeppo was 'silly' and delightfully so.
'Hush' is possible the greatest one, though I become more enamored with 'Chosen' each time I see it. Whedon at A-game is definitely something to behold, hopefully this/next week we'll not be disappointed.
Re: stick girl & A-game Whedon.faith21May 15 2004, 21:25:29 UTC
Please, tell me I'm wrong, and that young girls aren't watching this, and not like that. I wish I could. Lucky for me, most of my friends are not 13 year old girls, so I wouldn't know for sure. But I must say, even for me it's a little disconcerting to sit there and know that there's no way I look could fit into those jeans, first of all. And second, the message is that helpless, skinny girls get rescued by cute, strong guys.
Whedon at A-game is definitely something to behold, hopefully this/next week we'll not be disappointed. -crosses fingers- My mind is going crazy with all the possible endings.
young girls I wish I could. Lucky for me, most of my friends are not 13 year old girls, so I wouldn't know for sure. But I must say, even for me it's a little disconcerting to sit there and know that there's no way I look could fit into those jeans, first of all. And second, the message is that helpless, skinny girls get rescued by cute, strong guys. I never looked at her jeans ... my attention goes to her ever so visible clavicle. Not that BtVS enforced the need for solid food, so powerfully either, but it's good to know they've undone or are working on undoing whatever feminist seeds that were planted.
Whedon's A-game -crosses fingers- My mind is going crazy with all the possible endings. My mind is just kinda numb, not sure if that's good, might be. I think maybe it's best that way(?).
Not that BtVS enforced the need for solid food, so powerfully either, but it's good to know they've undone or are working on undoing whatever feminist seeds that were planted. When Buffy started, I was in seventh grade and from what I remember, it was my first memorable image of a girl not waiting for her knight to come rescue her. Now when I watch shows with girls (even, for example, Cordy in early seasons of Angel, I'm surprised if they don't land a good kick or punch)
My mind is just kinda numb, not sure if that's good, might be. My mind is mostly numb, when it's not thinking of the possible scenarios. Last year I came close to predicting the Buffy finale. Written on Feb 15 '03 - Arrggh, okay so I just read an interview with James Marsters and he could not be more cryptic about the season finale. Something about a romantic ending, which, with Joss, probably means the Hellmouth opening up and swallowing Sunnydale just as Buffy is about to tell Spike she loves him. Now if I could just pick lottery numbers with the same accuracy.
I heard somewhere someone batting the idea around that "they would all become slayers". I thought that's a bit too good to be true sounds sort of like immature fan-fic, but that worked out in a satisfying fashion, at least 'til was brought up the next season.
What will probably happen:
at least one major character will die, maybe several?
The bad guys will generally lose, in the process some sort of shift will occur and the world will be a better place, but something more interesting, which would change things were we to re-visit the concept.
Something good will happen for somebody?
Someone could become human. We'll throw the buffy analogy out there, both?
Good call on the BtVS finale. A little scary now that I look back on it.
at least one major character will die, maybe several? I've heard rumors to that effect.
Throw this unsubstantiated rumor in the mix and anything really could happen. I figured as much. Knowing the WB, I didn't really expect it, although one would be nice. If I was Joss, I wouldn't have banked on that while writing (co-writing) the finale.
Never-mind what I proposed that sounds too much like Chosen. There has to be some element of it in there, it being a big finale to do, but I can very much see it 'zigging' Where 'Chosen' 'zagged' ... right?
I can very much see it 'zigging' Where 'Chosen' 'zagged' ... right? I think part of the reason why I was so successful in predicting 'Chosen' was because I had never seen a Whedon series finale before. Now I have 'Chosen' in my head and it is clouding my judgment. I do agree that it might have a different "theme" to it. It is a darker show anyway, he might not go with so much of a happy ending.
at least one major character will die, maybe several? I've heard rumors to that effect. You don't need to hear rumors, isn't it a given? Though probably a minor/major character ... Angel, maybe but nothing that can't be undone somehow. Spike, the same, Wesley, I don't think so, but that would be a big deal. Gunn, prime candidate? Corpse Fred, Too new, besides that nothing's stopping them. Lorne, would anyone notice? Harmony, If they even show her, It'll be interesting to see what she does, kill everybody or save everybody, if she even is shown definitely expendable, though probably not worth the time.
What happens to Connor's memories if they kill the guy who keeps them (black circle guy), though as you say probably not a factor since he probably already remembers, something I doubt this episode will even touch on.
EvilJayne is dead, but that goes w/o saying.
Wonder about Lindsey, if he'll even be dealt w/.
I saw (????-2004) beside one of the actors in imdb, as I said before, not that it means much since they're all -2004 now. I'll let you know afterward who it was.
Throw this unsubstantiated rumor in the mix and anything really could happen. I figured as much. Knowing the WB, I didn't really expect it, although one would be nice. If I was Joss, I wouldn't have banked on that while writing (co-writing) the finale. Next Year perhaps, though demand may've waned by that time.
I can very much see it 'zigging' Where 'Chosen' 'zagged' ... right? I think part of the reason why I was so successful in predicting 'Chosen' was because I had never seen a Whedon series finale before. Now I have 'Chosen' in my head and it is clouding my judgment. I knew there was a good possibility they'd kill Buffy or Faith off. After all they had the Jr. Slayers, and that plot-line had to be paid-off with one of them becoming the real deal. But that was also what made that a such a great episode.
I do agree that it might have a different "theme" to it. It is a darker show anyway, he might not go with so much of a happy ending. Yeah, I think it makes sense for this one to be darker, but I do like the idea of a Chosen-type redemption, it was an amazing pay-off. Joss Whedon flipped his whole universe. I think this will be similar, obviously. Though it is S5 for whatever that is worth and maybe it's more Jeff Bell than Joss Whedon.
Well, it's not speculation anymore since I'm writing this after the finale, but here we go anyway...
About the deaths - There was supposed to be a season 6, so Angel would live through it. Spike? Not going to kill him off again. Gunn? a maybe Wes - he says in the episode things that make you realize he has nothing left to live for Lorne - too much a fan favorite to kill Illyria - an asset to the fight, and no reason to kill off Amy again I didn't even think of Harmony until I saw the ep.
I saw (????-2004) beside one of the actors in imdb, as I said before, not that it means much since they're all -2004 now. They still have Angel, Spike, Illyria, and Gunn as survivors, but they also have Wes interestingly enough.
I'd speculate on more of this, but I've seen the ep now, so it's hard not to be biased.
About the deathsascii_70_85May 21 2004, 02:24:57 UTC
About the deaths - There was supposed to be a season 6, so Angel would live through it. If S6 was to happen all would be on board except maybe Lorne, I think. Judging by the imdb thing, His contract may have been renegotiated or something. I read something somewhere to the effect of Andy Hallet was getting tired of the make-up.
Spike? Not going to kill him off again. I've heard idle chatter of Spike getting his own show, or getting the alleged t.v. movies instead of Angel. Spike's been dealt with too much. That's why Faith and Angel are good 'spin-off' characters neither had been done to death, and both were fringe enough to have something going on that really hasn't been addressed. Spike, could definitely be part of something, but I question how much 'new' ground could be covered by the character, which hasn't already been covered?
Gunn? a maybe hmm...
Wes - he says in the episode things that make you realize he has nothing left to live for {eye-roll} Wes was a really dynamic character, that would've worked out well if there was ever a Faith Spin-off. Though Tru Calling got renewed, don't ask me why? {confused} and Firefly and Wonderfalls, {scratches-head}.
Lorne - too much a fan favorite to kill Yeah back in Seasons 2 and 3. He hasn't done anything since he became an actual cast member. If you're going to look at fan favourites look at Wes.
Illyria - an asset to the fight, and no reason to kill off Amy again I get the 'kill off again' thing. I can see them picking up where they left off Corpse-Fred goes does some sort of poof mojo and fixes everything.
I didn't even think of Harmony until I saw the ep. I like how that was dealt with, I was like, "Dude you've got to know you shouldn't be telling her that!" and he did. I was also glad everybody remembered while comic relief she's still evil. Odd they she got to live, too funny to kill?
Re: About the deathsfaith21May 21 2004, 22:58:52 UTC
I read something somewhere to the effect of Andy Hallet was getting tired of the make-up. I read that as well.
I was also glad everybody remembered while comic relief she's still evil. Odd they she got to live, too funny to kill? True, too many people think she is harmless just because she is stupid. I got the impression watching her walk away that she is just one of those people that keeps rolling through life untouched.
Spike is interesting because he has more too him than just being a sidekick, but at the same time I don't like seeing him take attention away from people like Wes and Lorne. Wesley definitely could have been explored even more. Gunn as well, probably. Angel & Faith were the two most intriguing because they could go either way. Don't ask me about Tru Calling either. I'll never understand some of those decisions.
Group-think and foresight.ascii_70_85May 23 2004, 02:29:59 UTC
I was also glad everybody remembered while comic relief she's still evil. Odd they she got to live, too funny to kill? True, too many people think she is harmless just because she is stupid. I got the impression watching her walk away that she is just one of those people that keeps rolling through life untouched. I sort of didn't get that. Why not kill her? I don't see her having some integral part in any potential movie. Though on the other-hand if there is a spin-off a Harmony episode might not hurt, I liked 'The Real Me', 'Disharmony', or maybe even a 'Harm's way'.
Spike is interesting because he has more too him than just being a sidekick, but at the same time I don't like seeing him take attention away from people like Wes and Lorne. They've being dealing heavily with Spike for 4 years. I would've liked more dealings with Wes, Gunn, and Lorne as long as it would've been like S2.
Though I wouldn't have minded so much had they actually covered new ground with Spike, instead a regression into S4/S5 territory.
Wesley definitely could have been explored even more. Gunn as well, probably. I think Gunn could've covered more territory, than Wesley. He's generally been there, not that it wasn't worth the trip, or he couldn't go back to some of those places. Hell even anybody's going to regress, let's take Gunn back to his 2nd episode, when he was fun/interesting.
Angel & Faith were the two most intriguing because they could go either way. That's true, my thought is they weren't on all the time, and when they were on we felt like we weren't getting the full story, Their characters were rich, but unlike Spike the possibilities weren't fleshed out so much by their appearance, like possibly Spike, or Willow etc.
Don't ask me about Tru Calling either. I'll never understand some of those decisions. Group-think and foresight {smirk}.
True, I'm still liking the episodes a lot even though I know what happens, because like you said, I don't know how. Lindsey & Lilah are too much fun together, especially when she wears the wire.
The best is yet to come ... as far as they're concerned ... A Lindsey episode. I'd be curious what you think such things, if you'd care to 'discuss'.
Those define the blasphemy of last episode. Dru & Darla are supposed to slash, pillage, and destroy. e.g. S2.
I agree completely. That was a pathetic showing.
It'd be fine, if they were on more regularly, but they're not.
His reaction seems to be a bit over the top. 'Xander' doesn't strike me as being overly stupid, Tijuana's a long way, away. Also I don't get why he says "Angel's my only friend, when Cordelia's sitting right there." Maybe that's just the way he 'swings' as you indicate.
I realized afterward I meant Tahiti. My brain is fried, you'll have to excuse any mistakes.
No, no excuses {facetiously}. To state the obvious (Tahiti) that's stupid.
But yes, I agree, he sulked a little too much, and he does still have Summer, and would have had Marissa (whatever that was worth) had he not told her off.
I like him telling off Marisa he was right to some degree. Marisa has to do something drastic to get back into my good graces.
and now she has Tequila. ba-dum-bum.
Just what we need {eye-roll}. Not to say that 'Lana' on super-boy is a girl-role-model or anything, but she's more empowered than chicky. I think she might actually get rescued less often.
i need sleep.
Nah! Just more caffeine, {facetiously}.
Her first mistake is taking 'Damage' seriously. It was stupid, it doesn't deserve serious consideration.
True, but that episode hadn't crossed my mind when I watched "TGIQ" (neat little acronym) and I still thought it was stupid.
I was referring to the chicky's article, being peeved about discontinuity errors, between stupid 1 and stupid 2. Yeah stupid 2 (TGIQ) had enough stupid to go around, that's why it pisses me off to no end,
Like I said 'if you can't be funny, be boring.' It sucks in the short term, but doesn't cheapen the series, or mess with it retroactively. I'm repeating myself, but I did say to 'no end' didn't I?
Besides, "Damage" was creepy & creepy beats funny where this show is concerned (in regard to full episodes, that is).
Beg to differ. Good beats bad ... Truly great episodes of the Whedon have it all thrown in a blender, and yet at the same time it all makes sense, perhaps lighter on the funny side usual.
e.g. 'The Zeppo' funny episode, but definitely not cheap or insulting. Better than this season's creep-fest AtS 5.04 "Hell Bound", while admittedly a bit creepy, didn't do much for me. Though last year's 'Conversations with Dead People' did ... it's rare that the Whedon is really creepy. But in the vein of being cheap and shotty, definitely creepy or at least gross is the way to go. It wasn't pleasant to think about a sadistic Slayer going Psycho on Spike, but to the alternative of a 'Smile Time' scenario, I might rather watch the Xander eye scene again w/o turning away, might. Jesus I need to get a life.
we have the 'end-all-be-all' apocalypse to deal with... shouldn't we be building to that or something? {eye-roll}.
You'd think, wouldn't you? -joins in the eye-rolling-
If Ross and Rachel can get back together w/ 5 secs of prep time, why not churn out the end-all-be-all apocalypse/finale in a few minutes, they can stick it on the :40-:55 minutes of the episode {another obligatory eye-roll}.
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And that's a sci-fi show about Superman, whose job is rescuing people.
Truly great episodes of the Whedon have it all thrown in a blender
Hush is the great example of this. I wasn't thinking of 'The Zeppo' but that did work. It was funny without silly.
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And that's a sci-fi show about Superman, whose job is rescuing people.
{rolls eyes and laughs}.
Though sadly, how many young girls are watching this? 'Yes, kids it's okay to be passive and weak as long as you're rail thin.' {smacks-head} -- in which case you'll have to be passive and weak -- it's called anorexia nervosa. Please, tell me I'm wrong, and that young girls aren't watching this, and not like that.
Truly great episodes of the Whedon have it all thrown in a blender
Hush is the great example of this. I wasn't thinking of 'The Zeppo' but that did work. It was funny without silly.
I was thinking of Zeppo as good example of 'good/funny', but see in the Whedoneque funny can be great too... I'd say 'funny without being dumb.' same difference. Zeppo was 'silly' and delightfully so.
'Hush' is possible the greatest one, though I become more enamored with 'Chosen' each time I see it. Whedon at A-game is definitely something to behold, hopefully this/next week we'll not be disappointed.
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I wish I could. Lucky for me, most of my friends are not 13 year old girls, so I wouldn't know for sure. But I must say, even for me it's a little disconcerting to sit there and know that there's no way I look could fit into those jeans, first of all. And second, the message is that helpless, skinny girls get rescued by cute, strong guys.
Whedon at A-game is definitely something to behold, hopefully this/next week we'll not be disappointed.
-crosses fingers- My mind is going crazy with all the possible endings.
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I wish I could. Lucky for me, most of my friends are not 13 year old girls, so I wouldn't know for sure. But I must say, even for me it's a little disconcerting to sit there and know that there's no way I look could fit into those jeans, first of all. And second, the message is that helpless, skinny girls get rescued by cute, strong guys.
I never looked at her jeans ... my attention goes to her ever so visible clavicle. Not that BtVS enforced the need for solid food, so powerfully either, but it's good to know they've undone or are working on undoing whatever feminist seeds that were planted.
Whedon's A-game
-crosses fingers- My mind is going crazy with all the possible endings.
My mind is just kinda numb, not sure if that's good, might be. I think maybe it's best that way(?).
Thanks for commenting.
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When Buffy started, I was in seventh grade and from what I remember, it was my first memorable image of a girl not waiting for her knight to come rescue her. Now when I watch shows with girls (even, for example, Cordy in early seasons of Angel, I'm surprised if they don't land a good kick or punch)
My mind is just kinda numb, not sure if that's good, might be.
My mind is mostly numb, when it's not thinking of the possible scenarios. Last year I came close to predicting the Buffy finale. Written on Feb 15 '03 - Arrggh, okay so I just read an interview with James Marsters and he could not be more cryptic about the season finale. Something about a romantic ending, which, with Joss, probably means the Hellmouth opening up and swallowing Sunnydale just as Buffy is about to tell Spike she loves him.
Now if I could just pick lottery numbers with the same accuracy.
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I heard somewhere someone batting the idea around that
"they would all become slayers". I thought that's a bit too good to be true sounds sort of like immature fan-fic, but that worked out in a satisfying fashion, at least 'til was brought up the next season.
What will probably happen:
at least one major character will die, maybe several?
The bad guys will generally lose, in the process some sort of shift will occur and the world will be a better place, but something more interesting, which would change things were we to re-visit the concept.
Something good will happen for somebody?
Someone could become human. We'll throw the buffy analogy out there, both?
Throw this unsubstantiated rumor in the mix and anything really could happen.
Especially if there was no intention(?) to look back, though I suppose there may have been at the time of production.
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A little scary now that I look back on it.
at least one major character will die, maybe several?
I've heard rumors to that effect.
Throw this unsubstantiated rumor in the mix and anything really could happen.
I figured as much. Knowing the WB, I didn't really expect it, although one would be nice. If I was Joss, I wouldn't have banked on that while writing (co-writing) the finale.
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I think part of the reason why I was so successful in predicting 'Chosen' was because I had never seen a Whedon series finale before. Now I have 'Chosen' in my head and it is clouding my judgment.
I do agree that it might have a different "theme" to it. It is a darker show anyway, he might not go with so much of a happy ending.
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I've heard rumors to that effect.
You don't need to hear rumors, isn't it a given? Though probably a minor/major character ...
Angel, maybe but nothing that can't be undone somehow.
Spike, the same,
Wesley, I don't think so, but that would be a big deal.
Gunn, prime candidate?
Corpse Fred, Too new, besides that nothing's stopping them.
Lorne, would anyone notice?
Harmony, If they even show her, It'll be interesting to see what she does, kill everybody or save everybody, if she even is shown definitely expendable, though probably not worth the time.
What happens to Connor's memories if they kill the guy who keeps them (black circle guy), though as you say probably not a factor since he probably already remembers, something I doubt this episode will even touch on.
EvilJayne is dead, but that goes w/o saying.
Wonder about Lindsey, if he'll even be dealt w/.
I saw (????-2004) beside one of the actors in imdb, as I said before, not that it means much since they're all -2004 now.
I'll let you know afterward who it was.
Throw this unsubstantiated rumor in the mix and anything really could happen.
I figured as much. Knowing the WB, I didn't really expect it, although one would be nice. If I was Joss, I wouldn't have banked on that while writing (co-writing) the finale.
Next Year perhaps, though demand may've waned by that time.
I can very much see it 'zigging' Where 'Chosen' 'zagged' ... right?
I think part of the reason why I was so successful in predicting 'Chosen' was because I had never seen a Whedon series finale before. Now I have 'Chosen' in my head and it is clouding my judgment.
I knew there was a good possibility they'd kill Buffy or Faith off. After all they had the Jr. Slayers, and that plot-line had to be paid-off with one of them becoming the real deal. But that was also what made that a such a great episode.
I do agree that it might have a different "theme" to it. It is a darker show anyway, he might not go with so much of a happy ending.
Yeah, I think it makes sense for this one to be darker, but I do like the idea of a Chosen-type redemption, it was an amazing pay-off. Joss Whedon flipped his whole universe. I think this will be similar, obviously. Though it is S5 for whatever that is worth and maybe it's more Jeff Bell than Joss Whedon.
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About the deaths - There was supposed to be a season 6, so Angel would live through it.
Spike? Not going to kill him off again.
Gunn? a maybe
Wes - he says in the episode things that make you realize he has nothing left to live for
Lorne - too much a fan favorite to kill
Illyria - an asset to the fight, and no reason to kill off Amy again
I didn't even think of Harmony until I saw the ep.
I saw (????-2004) beside one of the actors in imdb, as I said before, not that it means much since they're all -2004 now.
They still have Angel, Spike, Illyria, and Gunn as survivors, but they also have Wes interestingly enough.
I'd speculate on more of this, but I've seen the ep now, so it's hard not to be biased.
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If S6 was to happen all would be on board except maybe Lorne, I think. Judging by the imdb thing, His contract may have been renegotiated or something. I read something somewhere to the effect of Andy Hallet was getting tired of the make-up.
Spike? Not going to kill him off again.
I've heard idle chatter of Spike getting his own show, or getting the alleged t.v. movies instead of Angel. Spike's been dealt with too much.
That's why Faith and Angel are good 'spin-off' characters neither had been done to death, and both were fringe enough to have something going on that really hasn't been addressed. Spike, could definitely be part of something, but I question how much 'new' ground could be covered by the character, which hasn't already been covered?
Gunn? a maybe
hmm...
Wes - he says in the episode things that make you realize he has nothing left to live for
{eye-roll} Wes was a really dynamic character, that would've worked out well if there was ever a Faith Spin-off. Though Tru Calling got renewed, don't ask me why? {confused} and Firefly and Wonderfalls, {scratches-head}.
Lorne - too much a fan favorite to kill
Yeah back in Seasons 2 and 3. He hasn't done anything since he became an actual cast member. If you're going to look at fan favourites look at Wes.
Illyria - an asset to the fight, and no reason to kill off Amy again
I get the 'kill off again' thing. I can see them picking up where they left off Corpse-Fred goes does some sort of poof mojo and fixes everything.
I didn't even think of Harmony until I saw the ep.
I like how that was dealt with, I was like, "Dude you've got to know you shouldn't be telling her that!" and he did. I was also glad everybody remembered while comic relief she's still evil. Odd they she got to live, too funny to kill?
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I read that as well.
I was also glad everybody remembered while comic relief she's still evil. Odd they she got to live, too funny to kill?
True, too many people think she is harmless just because she is stupid. I got the impression watching her walk away that she is just one of those people that keeps rolling through life untouched.
Spike is interesting because he has more too him than just being a sidekick, but at the same time I don't like seeing him take attention away from people like Wes and Lorne. Wesley definitely could have been explored even more. Gunn as well, probably. Angel & Faith were the two most intriguing because they could go either way.
Don't ask me about Tru Calling either. I'll never understand some of those decisions.
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True, too many people think she is harmless just because she is stupid. I got the impression watching her walk away that she is just one of those people that keeps rolling through life untouched.
I sort of didn't get that. Why not kill her? I don't see her having some integral part in any potential movie. Though on the other-hand if there is a spin-off a Harmony episode might not hurt, I liked 'The Real Me', 'Disharmony', or maybe even a 'Harm's way'.
Spike is interesting because he has more too him than just being a sidekick, but at the same time I don't like seeing him take attention away from people like Wes and Lorne.
They've being dealing heavily with Spike for 4 years. I would've liked more dealings with Wes, Gunn, and Lorne as long as it would've been like S2.
Though I wouldn't have minded so much had they actually covered new ground with Spike, instead a regression into S4/S5 territory.
Wesley definitely could have been explored even more. Gunn as well, probably.
I think Gunn could've covered more territory, than Wesley. He's generally been there, not that it wasn't worth the trip, or he couldn't go back to some of those places. Hell even anybody's going to regress, let's take Gunn back to his 2nd episode, when he was fun/interesting.
Angel & Faith were the two most intriguing because they could go either way.
That's true, my thought is they weren't on all the time, and when they were on we felt like we weren't getting the full story, Their characters were rich, but unlike Spike the possibilities weren't fleshed out so much by their appearance, like possibly Spike, or Willow etc.
Don't ask me about Tru Calling either. I'll never understand some of those decisions.
Group-think and foresight {smirk}.
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That's what I was wondering.
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