Can you still (if all the stars align) get hired into an English department with an M.Sc. if it's from a British school?
What kind of "department" are you talking? The Msc is an odd degree by American lights, it's basically much shorter than the American MA. It's also not really equivalent in that it's intended for specialization, field changes, or foundation work rather than the first half of the PhD like the Mphil/MA. (The Mphil is almost always what the MA portion of the US PhD degree is, for reference.) If you mean hired into a university department, yes, it's possible you'll have problems caused by its oddity and its non-terminal nature.
This community is explicitly for American programs, but I actually applied to all UK schools. If you've got any particular questions I'll be happy to answer them, with the caveat that I'm an anthro/econ person and not an English person :)
That is exactly the kind of information I was looking for! I plan on doing a PhD after the Master's program, but it would most likely be at the same or a similar British institution. Some of the programs I've been looking at (Edinburgh, Cambridge) state in their degree description that the M.Sc. (I'm not sure about the M.St. but maybe it's the same?) is adequate preparation for a PhD at that school and can transfer easily into the program, but I was just wondering what that would look like outside of the school.
Oh! I didn't even realize this was just for American programs, I feel so silly. Do you know if there is an equivalent community for U.K. programs? I couldn't find one so I thought this was it, but I guess I was mistaken!
You want to be really careful about generalizing Cambridge, Oxford, Durham to other universities - they're basically a totally different program. That said, MScs tend to trade around easily (in some cases, keep in mind I don't know about English :). I don't know about MSt, I haven't run into any!
Haha that's what I'm starting to learn! What do you mean, trade around easily?
I haven't run in to any either, which is why I was flummoxed to see Oxford offering one. But it's Oxford! They ought to know what they're doing, right?
An Oxford MSt is, in essence, exactly the same thing as the MA elsewhere in the UK. It's called "MSt" because when you do a BA at Oxford, you can convert it into an automatic MA a few years later - so it would be too confusing if the "real" master's programme were called by the same name.
I hope this helps. Cambridge is similar - they too grant automatic MAs to people who did their undergrad degrees there, and thus call what would be MAs, MPhils. (Whereas elsewhere in the UK, the MPhil generally takes longer, and demands a longer thesis.)
What kind of "department" are you talking? The Msc is an odd degree by American lights, it's basically much shorter than the American MA. It's also not really equivalent in that it's intended for specialization, field changes, or foundation work rather than the first half of the PhD like the Mphil/MA. (The Mphil is almost always what the MA portion of the US PhD degree is, for reference.) If you mean hired into a university department, yes, it's possible you'll have problems caused by its oddity and its non-terminal nature.
This community is explicitly for American programs, but I actually applied to all UK schools. If you've got any particular questions I'll be happy to answer them, with the caveat that I'm an anthro/econ person and not an English person :)
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Oh! I didn't even realize this was just for American programs, I feel so silly. Do you know if there is an equivalent community for U.K. programs? I couldn't find one so I thought this was it, but I guess I was mistaken!
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I haven't run in to any either, which is why I was flummoxed to see Oxford offering one. But it's Oxford! They ought to know what they're doing, right?
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I hope this helps. Cambridge is similar - they too grant automatic MAs to people who did their undergrad degrees there, and thus call what would be MAs, MPhils. (Whereas elsewhere in the UK, the MPhil generally takes longer, and demands a longer thesis.)
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