Article that caught my attention: "7 Reasons Why You Should Go to Art School"
http://news.deviantart.com/article/32759/
pfft. Quotes and my thoughts on them:
"You will never learn as much on your own as you will learn in school. Never." And yet I recall the classes where I sat around for the lecture (which was usually pretty slow, and sometimes common sense/stuff I knew already) and then when we were let go to spend the rest of our class doing homework, I would go to the library instead and read up on almost 10-fold what was covered in class. Bite meeeee.
"...you have no idea how little you know... it's not like you can look up everything on your own: there are things you don't even know you should look up." lawl, it's almost like everything else?
"In school you do not only learn. You become. The curriculum deconstructs the way you think and reconstructs your mind for the purpose of art. That is what sets a professional apart from an amateur. An amateur will always be 'doing art'. A professional is hardwired for it. It's not something you can even comprehend until you've been through it."
Wow, I can't believe she truly, in her heart, believes that. Did you get that people? Going to art school gets you a fucking third eye.
"Discipline is not self-imposed. It must be imposed from the outside... put yourself what you go through in school... endless readings, tight deadlines, projects, redoes, competition, overnights, imposed subjects, etc" Don't forget those awesome student loans you'll be paying off for years to come!
"skilled self-taught artists with one large weakness that betrays the fact they received no education: they can only do one thing. They have one style, one medium. They may be very good but it gets boring for everyone, it gets outfashioned quickly, and it's a dangerous situation on a professional level. An art career, or a freelance design career, is a gamble: you make it safer by being versatile and able to answer any commission. Such versatility comes from being forced to do things you would not choose to do on your own, and exposed to ideas you would normally not be interested in" I thought the smart people already have it figured out that art =/= easy money. And work is work. Well, unless you're that lady that found that shitty modern art in the dumpster that sold for a couple million. But that's mostly rich people being stupid, and secondly it's luck.
"If you think getting feedback on dA helps you improve, imagine getting monitored and mentored daily by experienced, active professionals who can spot your weaknesses and know how to make you work through them. People who can evaluate your work not based on personal preference, nor even solely against a set of art principles, but in the context of the past and current art scene. Who can train your mind alongside your skills and show you how to marry concept and execution. Whose contacts in the real world can take you far. Who can force you to create a future for yourself with your skills instead of wasting them on something that will never get you anywhere in life. Or did you really think college teachers are just fossils that they keep around to keep anime drawers out?"
I can't believe... does she even believe herself, or is someone paying her? You'd think $20k/year might get you that kind of mentorship/love, but that's very rarely the case from what I hear, lady.
"During your scholarship, you will participate in workshops, attend lectures, go on field trips, be sent on internships, enter department-wide or nationwide competitions, meet professionals, handle small freelance jobs. By the time you graduate, you will have a foot in design circles, a useful list of connections, and enough professionals should have heard your name to give you a start in your career. People in art school typically don't have to worry about ending up jobless." AHAHAHAHA
"Someone without an official education is at a disadvantage, because no client wants to invest time into verifying all the above (skills tested and recognized, familiar with workings of the system, you can make a deadline, work under pressure, professional standards for quality and pricing, do the best job their money can buy) about you, as they would have to do since nobody else can vouch for you"
Isn't that like, subjective or something? Bonus: One of the commenters, among other things, said "I haven't had any education in art and I've been a professional designer for a few years now. Everyone in the industry will tell you that it's not your degree that counts, it's your skill and portfolio. If you can build this up outside of school, you're hired."
"Where else are you going to be able to experiment with so many media without spending a fortune? ...work spaces, fully equipped etching and silkscreen rooms, a photo lab, a computer lab, projectors, digital cameras, library... student discounts on art supplies and printing services." Or with the amount spent going to the school (a small fortune I would think), you could rent an apartment (space), and buy your own equipment/books/sweet-ass computer. Hell, maybe even a professional to tutor you for the stuff you can't teach yourself?
"I can think of more, but 7 is a good number to end at."
Haha, no you can't.
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I went through the first few pages of comments, and most people just agreed and praised her on how eloquently she wrote this.
Only two dissenters really- that guy I quoted earlier and this dude:
Dude: Did you receive perks or payment from a third party to foist these views and positions upon us?
'ask only people who you can trust'
hummmmmmmmm --let me get my blinders
The style of this message tends to back us into a small corner.
Art school does not cull cliche and shallow, it
can be like a corral that herds creativity like a dog herds sheep.
I am not contradicting your assumptions only your absolute and haughty style. It sounds to me as if you are attempting to convince or justify your own beliefs.
OP: Once you have something to show for yourself, what you think may matter a little more to me.
Dude: what unmitigated arrogance!
OP: Flatterer.
pfft. Quotes and my thoughts on them:
"You will never learn as much on your own as you will learn in school. Never." And yet I recall the classes where I sat around for the lecture (which was usually pretty slow, and sometimes common sense/stuff I knew already) and then when we were let go to spend the rest of our class doing homework, I would go to the library instead and read up on almost 10-fold what was covered in class. Bite meeeee.
"...you have no idea how little you know... it's not like you can look up everything on your own: there are things you don't even know you should look up." lawl, it's almost like everything else?
"In school you do not only learn. You become. The curriculum deconstructs the way you think and reconstructs your mind for the purpose of art. That is what sets a professional apart from an amateur. An amateur will always be 'doing art'. A professional is hardwired for it. It's not something you can even comprehend until you've been through it."
Wow, I can't believe she truly, in her heart, believes that. Did you get that people? Going to art school gets you a fucking third eye.
"Discipline is not self-imposed. It must be imposed from the outside... put yourself what you go through in school... endless readings, tight deadlines, projects, redoes, competition, overnights, imposed subjects, etc" Don't forget those awesome student loans you'll be paying off for years to come!
"skilled self-taught artists with one large weakness that betrays the fact they received no education: they can only do one thing. They have one style, one medium. They may be very good but it gets boring for everyone, it gets outfashioned quickly, and it's a dangerous situation on a professional level. An art career, or a freelance design career, is a gamble: you make it safer by being versatile and able to answer any commission. Such versatility comes from being forced to do things you would not choose to do on your own, and exposed to ideas you would normally not be interested in" I thought the smart people already have it figured out that art =/= easy money. And work is work. Well, unless you're that lady that found that shitty modern art in the dumpster that sold for a couple million. But that's mostly rich people being stupid, and secondly it's luck.
"If you think getting feedback on dA helps you improve, imagine getting monitored and mentored daily by experienced, active professionals who can spot your weaknesses and know how to make you work through them. People who can evaluate your work not based on personal preference, nor even solely against a set of art principles, but in the context of the past and current art scene. Who can train your mind alongside your skills and show you how to marry concept and execution. Whose contacts in the real world can take you far. Who can force you to create a future for yourself with your skills instead of wasting them on something that will never get you anywhere in life. Or did you really think college teachers are just fossils that they keep around to keep anime drawers out?"
I can't believe... does she even believe herself, or is someone paying her? You'd think $20k/year might get you that kind of mentorship/love, but that's very rarely the case from what I hear, lady.
"During your scholarship, you will participate in workshops, attend lectures, go on field trips, be sent on internships, enter department-wide or nationwide competitions, meet professionals, handle small freelance jobs. By the time you graduate, you will have a foot in design circles, a useful list of connections, and enough professionals should have heard your name to give you a start in your career. People in art school typically don't have to worry about ending up jobless." AHAHAHAHA
"Someone without an official education is at a disadvantage, because no client wants to invest time into verifying all the above (skills tested and recognized, familiar with workings of the system, you can make a deadline, work under pressure, professional standards for quality and pricing, do the best job their money can buy) about you, as they would have to do since nobody else can vouch for you"
Isn't that like, subjective or something? Bonus: One of the commenters, among other things, said "I haven't had any education in art and I've been a professional designer for a few years now. Everyone in the industry will tell you that it's not your degree that counts, it's your skill and portfolio. If you can build this up outside of school, you're hired."
"Where else are you going to be able to experiment with so many media without spending a fortune? ...work spaces, fully equipped etching and silkscreen rooms, a photo lab, a computer lab, projectors, digital cameras, library... student discounts on art supplies and printing services." Or with the amount spent going to the school (a small fortune I would think), you could rent an apartment (space), and buy your own equipment/books/sweet-ass computer. Hell, maybe even a professional to tutor you for the stuff you can't teach yourself?
"I can think of more, but 7 is a good number to end at."
Haha, no you can't.
--------------------
I went through the first few pages of comments, and most people just agreed and praised her on how eloquently she wrote this.
Only two dissenters really- that guy I quoted earlier and this dude:
Dude: Did you receive perks or payment from a third party to foist these views and positions upon us?
'ask only people who you can trust'
hummmmmmmmm --let me get my blinders
The style of this message tends to back us into a small corner.
Art school does not cull cliche and shallow, it
can be like a corral that herds creativity like a dog herds sheep.
I am not contradicting your assumptions only your absolute and haughty style. It sounds to me as if you are attempting to convince or justify your own beliefs.
OP: Once you have something to show for yourself, what you think may matter a little more to me.
Dude: what unmitigated arrogance!
OP: Flatterer.