well, for starters, I don't call those comments. I call those ramblings from people who have no credibility with anyone anyway ... so those "comments" are pretty meaningless. They were just flames from people with nothing better to do. it's quite sad really.
As for you, Shakey, I'll respond. The reason I've not responded to anyone else is because most of them know my position, or I don't feel the need to explain it out to them any further. I must say though, I do find it interesting that you had the nerve to call me out on the "2200" word essay, when you obviously had to have taken the time to either count it out or save it to word so you could see how many words it was ... just interesting to me. I wrote that out to exaplain to a few people why deserved to know, just why I was giving it up. They at least deserved that. And that is why I wrote the whole thing out.
And you are right, there are real people with real feelings sitting behind these computer screens. But how much do you really know? And how easily is it blown apart? Is it really worth it? The internet is not real life. If anything, it is an escape from it. You know just as well as I do that there are a lot of people that are completely addicted to it. They can't pull themselves away because they are too inticed symbolence of an emotional bond. I've heard quite a few times people say they've fallen for someone over the net, or they've got friends from the net ... but you never know how you would really respond to them face to face. You don't know if that chemistery would be there, and you never know what or who you're really dealing with. There is no substitute for face to face ... and you know that just as well as I. You've been talking about it for quite a while now. I can't help but look at this from a purely rational stand point. And all my rationality tells me that there are a lot of people who are in way, way over their heads. Just as I probably was, but I've realized that this just isn't worth it. I mean come on ... how long can you continue to do this ... really? Is this going to continue to consume you into your late 20s? Your 30s? ... your 40s? I highly doubt it. Eventually you're going to come to point where you realize that is nothing more than what it was meant to be ... a place to have a little fun. It's isn't life. It's supposed to be something you do when you're board ... when you don't have anything more pressing to be doing. It isn't supposed to be the thing that consumes you, it isn't supposed to be the things that takes priority ... It is not something that should cause people such distress.
I find it odd that you call me "your friend, whether you like it or not" in one post, and then say, "I'll despise you for the rest of my life" in the next. And then you call me the hypocrit. What exactly am I being a hypocrit about shakey? Am I a hypocrit because I'm moving on? Am I hypocrit because I don't place such a hefty value on something that is so fleeting?
Or am I being called a hypocrit because I guide my decisions by reason, and thinking things through, and coming to realizations rather than allowing myself to be controlled almost completely by my emotions like you?
I never said I was right all the time, I know I'm not. But what I do know is that I think my actions through before I make them. Can you honostly say the same? You say I don't take into consideration the emotions of other people ... do you honestly think that ... or do you say that on a whim just because I said what I really think about it all, and it doesn't quite fit with what you want to believe? To be honest shakey, I don't care if you despise me for the rest of your days or not. In the long run, that isn't going to be my problem, it's going to be yours. If you are really so firm in what you think about the internet ... then why is what I say so angering to you? You know what I say has at least some validity, or you wouldn't be so hacked off by it.
Do I feel the need to enforce my opinions? Of course I do. I have just as much right to present an argument in defense of my stand-point as you do. I think what really bothers you is that I don't agree with your opinion, so the only recourse that leaves you is to lash-out at me. Doesn't bother me though. I've grown accustomed to it from you.
"I'm hacked off by it becasue you're saying that my relationship with ahnya has no validity. It is over the internet, therefore it cannot be real and is not worth anything." No, I'm saying people are placing to much faith and to much of the their energies into something that doesn't have real life properties.
"Nice comment, full of spite. What happened to forgiveness?" that wasn't spite, that was just saying what I'm used to from you. doesn't mean I hold it against you ... it is your personality. As for the forgiveness aspect ... you know just as well as I that you have no room to comment on that.
"We were friends in the past, whether you like it or not we were. Seems to me you're ashamed of that now." I'm not ashamed of that. I'm ashamed that put such a high priority on FFU. Heck, I'm still talking to Free Spirit, just because I don't care for the addictive properties of some these things doesn't mean I'm completely abandoning the people I've been talking to.
"As I said, you're calling my feelings worthless. You don't seem to understand where I would be now if it wasn;t for the net and Ahnya.
If you condemn the internet you're condemning a lot of people. Without it i would still be drinking and I certainly wouldn't believe in God. That's just one life you would have condemned"
I'm not condemning the net. I'm condemning the addiction to the net. As for the second part there, man ... God brings people to Him in his own time, and of his own self. Had it not been through the net, God would find a different way. The point of it is that you made the decision to go after God of your own will. Did the net help get you there? maybe. perhaps it was one of the things that brought you to the point where you knew you had no where else to turn ... but it was God that orchastrated that, and it could have been done with or without the net, whether you realize it or not.
As for those of you who think I'm "supressing your opinions" ... flaming isn't presenting an opinion. It's just being repugnant. And this is my live-journal. You have no "rights" here. I'll decide what I want on it and not, you have no say in that. Now, I better go delete all of kali's great "opinions" ... you know, the lines and lines of "assjar" and what not ... those are REAL opinions I have to tell you.
-----Re: heh "No, I'm saying people are placing to much faith and to much of the their energies into something that doesn't have real life properties"
quite ironic coming from a guy who cried and prayer over a fake death on the INTERNET don't ya think-----
That is what Kali just said. I'm deleting his post anyway because I find his avatar to be more than a little perverse.
But in response ... cry? No. That was not me. Prayer, yes. I do that over just about everything. I'm not in the least bit ashamed of it. And try to pay attention here if you're going to post. I'm saying I was to wrapped up in it. key word there is "was" you're the one that seems to be bothered so much by this that you have to keep making such fascinating posts.
As for you, Shakey, I'll respond. The reason I've not responded to anyone else is because most of them know my position, or I don't feel the need to explain it out to them any further.
I must say though, I do find it interesting that you had the nerve to call me out on the "2200" word essay, when you obviously had to have taken the time to either count it out or save it to word so you could see how many words it was ... just interesting to me.
I wrote that out to exaplain to a few people why deserved to know, just why I was giving it up. They at least deserved that. And that is why I wrote the whole thing out.
And you are right, there are real people with real feelings sitting behind these computer screens. But how much do you really know? And how easily is it blown apart? Is it really worth it?
The internet is not real life. If anything, it is an escape from it. You know just as well as I do that there are a lot of people that are completely addicted to it. They can't pull themselves away because they are too inticed symbolence of an emotional bond. I've heard quite a few times people say they've fallen for someone over the net, or they've got friends from the net ... but you never know how you would really respond to them face to face. You don't know if that chemistery would be there, and you never know what or who you're really dealing with. There is no substitute for face to face ... and you know that just as well as I. You've been talking about it for quite a while now.
I can't help but look at this from a purely rational stand point. And all my rationality tells me that there are a lot of people who are in way, way over their heads. Just as I probably was, but I've realized that this just isn't worth it.
I mean come on ... how long can you continue to do this ... really? Is this going to continue to consume you into your late 20s? Your 30s? ... your 40s? I highly doubt it. Eventually you're going to come to point where you realize that is nothing more than what it was meant to be ... a place to have a little fun. It's isn't life. It's supposed to be something you do when you're board ... when you don't have anything more pressing to be doing. It isn't supposed to be the thing that consumes you, it isn't supposed to be the things that takes priority ... It is not something that should cause people such distress.
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Or am I being called a hypocrit because I guide my decisions by reason, and thinking things through, and coming to realizations rather than allowing myself to be controlled almost completely by my emotions like you?
I never said I was right all the time, I know I'm not. But what I do know is that I think my actions through before I make them.
Can you honostly say the same?
You say I don't take into consideration the emotions of other people ... do you honestly think that ... or do you say that on a whim just because I said what I really think about it all, and it doesn't quite fit with what you want to believe?
To be honest shakey, I don't care if you despise me for the rest of your days or not. In the long run, that isn't going to be my problem, it's going to be yours. If you are really so firm in what you think about the internet ... then why is what I say so angering to you?
You know what I say has at least some validity, or you wouldn't be so hacked off by it.
Do I feel the need to enforce my opinions? Of course I do. I have just as much right to present an argument in defense of my stand-point as you do. I think what really bothers you is that I don't agree with your opinion, so the only recourse that leaves you is to lash-out at me.
Doesn't bother me though. I've grown accustomed to it from you.
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No, I'm saying people are placing to much faith and to much of the their energies into something that doesn't have real life properties.
"Nice comment, full of spite. What happened to forgiveness?"
that wasn't spite, that was just saying what I'm used to from you. doesn't mean I hold it against you ... it is your personality.
As for the forgiveness aspect ... you know just as well as I that you have no room to comment on that.
"We were friends in the past, whether you like it or not we were. Seems to me you're ashamed of that now."
I'm not ashamed of that. I'm ashamed that put such a high priority on FFU.
Heck, I'm still talking to Free Spirit, just because I don't care for the addictive properties of some these things doesn't mean I'm completely abandoning the people I've been talking to.
"As I said, you're calling my feelings worthless. You don't seem to understand where I would be now if it wasn;t for the net and Ahnya.
If you condemn the internet you're condemning a lot of people. Without it i would still be drinking and I certainly wouldn't believe in God. That's just one life you would have condemned"
I'm not condemning the net. I'm condemning the addiction to the net.
As for the second part there, man ... God brings people to Him in his own time, and of his own self. Had it not been through the net, God would find a different way. The point of it is that you made the decision to go after God of your own will.
Did the net help get you there? maybe. perhaps it was one of the things that brought you to the point where you knew you had no where else to turn ... but it was God that orchastrated that, and it could have been done with or without the net, whether you realize it or not.
As for those of you who think I'm "supressing your opinions" ... flaming isn't presenting an opinion. It's just being repugnant. And this is my live-journal. You have no "rights" here. I'll decide what I want on it and not, you have no say in that.
Now, I better go delete all of kali's great "opinions" ... you know, the lines and lines of "assjar" and what not ... those are REAL opinions I have to tell you.
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"No, I'm saying people are placing to much faith and to much of the their energies into something that doesn't have real life properties"
quite ironic coming from a guy who cried and prayer over a fake death on the INTERNET don't ya think-----
That is what Kali just said. I'm deleting his post anyway because I find his avatar to be more than a little perverse.
But in response ... cry? No. That was not me. Prayer, yes. I do that over just about everything. I'm not in the least bit ashamed of it.
And try to pay attention here if you're going to post. I'm saying I was to wrapped up in it. key word there is "was" you're the one that seems to be bothered so much by this that you have to keep making such fascinating posts.
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