[Liliavati] How to harrass a Duke part 2
Originally posted to the Changling Parliment list on 5/6/2003 as a response to Dray's response to this previous post
> "Et Tu Countess,"
Liliavati laughs and nods her head in acknowledgement. There is a wicked mirth on her face as she listens to Dray speak. While he speaks she makes a few notes and looks around at the assembled Parliament.
She applauds softly as he finishes and watches as Mikal reminds the gathered that the discussion is only debate and not actually to be bound as law. She bows to him as he sits and looks to Dray.
"I thank you, Good Duke, for the clarification of your words. Such things are necessary for proposals such as these so that none can find room to pour pestilence into our assembled ears. Or call one a villain to counsel us in this debated course directly to our good." She brings her right hand up to touch her collarbone.
"And I did not intend to suggest you would deny the rights of ennobled commoners, as I said, it did not even merit my asking such a base question." Her face reflects the apologetic tones of her words. She pauses for a moment, seeming to collect her thoughts and when she speaks again it is in the same dry tone as before.
"I am still at best, uncertain about the full merit of your amendments and again, it may just be the ambiguous nature of law and the methods by which it is written. I see that this advised course is given freely and honest, logical to thinking and indeed may be the course to stabilizing our beleaguered lands.
"You seek in this amendment to limit the Ordeal, the Fior by which the Dreaming judges to those contests of ownership between those who uphold the chain of fealty. Am I am correct in this interpretation, Honorable Dray? Those who will not swear deserve not the ritual of Fior while those who swear and fail in their duties or are perceived to have failed are permitted the Fior?"
"For your second amendment," she pauses and shakes her head sadly, "Such a thing is a noble goal, Good Duke, and we stand here the representatives of a fractious and tense nation. There are kingdoms who speak of war and those who prepare to defend against such happenings. I find your boundless faith in the Dreaming inspiring but I often deal with baser realities. There are as many forms of dreams as grains of sand and each stamps their image upon the Dreaming. For every dream of Camelot there is a Julius Caesar.
"If we are to make legislation such as this we must consider all realities and do our best to prevent further strife. To mourn past evils and focus on only those is the quickest way to bring new mischief upon us.
"We here have a double duty," she gestures at the assembled and looks to each section as she speaks. "We are bound by life and education to respect the Dreaming for we are its children. And our positions have wedded us to another duty, one to kith and country, to the local populace we represent and to our High King whom we aid and advise.
"Can anyone in this notable company tell me where we most owe obedience? Or must we even choose between them and instead choose to serve both duties, both realities to the best of our ability?" She turns back to Dray and her tone is serious.
"I respect that which you try to do, Lord Dray, and respect the battles, sieges, and fortunes that you have passed through. But would it not be best to in one action mend as much of what is sadly awry in our Nation. When we are in session I think it might be best to propose measures in such a manner to strike at all those who by indirect and by forced actions subdue and poison our affections for both the Dreaming and Our Nation.
"The Shifting Sands makes no distinction between Sidhe and Commoner when we decreed that all must pay taxes, that all must provide census and the myriad of other duties that a title requires. If one is born to the mantle or chooses the mantle all must serve equally and to their best or they will be found as wanting as any other ambitious coward who will not perform necessary duties. And thus none can complain we favor one group over another." she smiles pleasantly as she seats herself.
"I cannot imagine that the Dreaming would object to an attempt to give the best to all its children. Sidhe or Commoner, we are bound by its gifts and its demands and we are equally its children."
Sri Liliavati Chandraka ni Banares ni Varanasi ap Eiluned
Seneschal to the Duchy of the Shifting Sands
Magistrate to the County of the Everburning Sky
Beloved, Child, and Servant of Bhairav
> "Et Tu Countess,"
Liliavati laughs and nods her head in acknowledgement. There is a wicked mirth on her face as she listens to Dray speak. While he speaks she makes a few notes and looks around at the assembled Parliament.
She applauds softly as he finishes and watches as Mikal reminds the gathered that the discussion is only debate and not actually to be bound as law. She bows to him as he sits and looks to Dray.
"I thank you, Good Duke, for the clarification of your words. Such things are necessary for proposals such as these so that none can find room to pour pestilence into our assembled ears. Or call one a villain to counsel us in this debated course directly to our good." She brings her right hand up to touch her collarbone.
"And I did not intend to suggest you would deny the rights of ennobled commoners, as I said, it did not even merit my asking such a base question." Her face reflects the apologetic tones of her words. She pauses for a moment, seeming to collect her thoughts and when she speaks again it is in the same dry tone as before.
"I am still at best, uncertain about the full merit of your amendments and again, it may just be the ambiguous nature of law and the methods by which it is written. I see that this advised course is given freely and honest, logical to thinking and indeed may be the course to stabilizing our beleaguered lands.
"You seek in this amendment to limit the Ordeal, the Fior by which the Dreaming judges to those contests of ownership between those who uphold the chain of fealty. Am I am correct in this interpretation, Honorable Dray? Those who will not swear deserve not the ritual of Fior while those who swear and fail in their duties or are perceived to have failed are permitted the Fior?"
"For your second amendment," she pauses and shakes her head sadly, "Such a thing is a noble goal, Good Duke, and we stand here the representatives of a fractious and tense nation. There are kingdoms who speak of war and those who prepare to defend against such happenings. I find your boundless faith in the Dreaming inspiring but I often deal with baser realities. There are as many forms of dreams as grains of sand and each stamps their image upon the Dreaming. For every dream of Camelot there is a Julius Caesar.
"If we are to make legislation such as this we must consider all realities and do our best to prevent further strife. To mourn past evils and focus on only those is the quickest way to bring new mischief upon us.
"We here have a double duty," she gestures at the assembled and looks to each section as she speaks. "We are bound by life and education to respect the Dreaming for we are its children. And our positions have wedded us to another duty, one to kith and country, to the local populace we represent and to our High King whom we aid and advise.
"Can anyone in this notable company tell me where we most owe obedience? Or must we even choose between them and instead choose to serve both duties, both realities to the best of our ability?" She turns back to Dray and her tone is serious.
"I respect that which you try to do, Lord Dray, and respect the battles, sieges, and fortunes that you have passed through. But would it not be best to in one action mend as much of what is sadly awry in our Nation. When we are in session I think it might be best to propose measures in such a manner to strike at all those who by indirect and by forced actions subdue and poison our affections for both the Dreaming and Our Nation.
"The Shifting Sands makes no distinction between Sidhe and Commoner when we decreed that all must pay taxes, that all must provide census and the myriad of other duties that a title requires. If one is born to the mantle or chooses the mantle all must serve equally and to their best or they will be found as wanting as any other ambitious coward who will not perform necessary duties. And thus none can complain we favor one group over another." she smiles pleasantly as she seats herself.
"I cannot imagine that the Dreaming would object to an attempt to give the best to all its children. Sidhe or Commoner, we are bound by its gifts and its demands and we are equally its children."
Sri Liliavati Chandraka ni Banares ni Varanasi ap Eiluned
Seneschal to the Duchy of the Shifting Sands
Magistrate to the County of the Everburning Sky
Beloved, Child, and Servant of Bhairav