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ext_2864067 September 25 2016, 11:56:48 UTC
'Article 50 has to be invoked now'

No, I can't agree with the Edinburgh Eye writer about their absurdly over-generous interpretation of Corbyn's words.

He has persistently been lukewarm about Remain.

He used those words, and should have understood the possibility of misinterpretation if that's not what he meant.

He has had ample opportunities to clarify his actual meaning and has not.

So, I'd chalk that one up to wishful thinking; the writer reinterpreting the Words of St Jeremy to fit their own political dogma.

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gonzo21 September 25 2016, 14:22:07 UTC
I thought Corbyn campaigned very enthusiastically for Remain. I saw some of his speeches on youtube, and they were very good and passionate.

It was the media who kept saying he was lukewarm. But actually watching the man in action, I thought he was very good.

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ext_2864067 September 25 2016, 15:11:54 UTC
He refused to share a pro-Remain platform with Cameron.

He's on record as saying that he was about 70-75% in favour of Remain.

That's pretty damn lukewarm signals he was putting out.

His supporters can't blame the media for everything he gets wrong, and as for the anti-Corbyn blinkered self-righteousness that you mention below, the pro-Corbyn Labour people have that in plentiful supply too.

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gonzo21 September 25 2016, 15:17:44 UTC
I think Corbyn had in mind what happened to Scottish labour for sharing a platform with the Tories...

Had he shared a platform with Cameron, I think it could have been similarly catastrophic. And just not worth the risk.

I think, given what happened in Scotland, that not sharing a platform with Cameron was a very wise decision.

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momentsmusicaux September 25 2016, 12:20:08 UTC
That's lovely news about Grace Hopper.

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resonant September 25 2016, 13:36:06 UTC
I'd think bikes-in-TV-boxes would be more likely to be stolen!

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supergee September 25 2016, 14:22:03 UTC
The extravert screed reminds me of an MRA complaining about the friendzone: If we don't do what they want, we're rude.

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gonzo21 September 25 2016, 14:34:57 UTC
You know it's the self righteousness of the anti-Corbyn brigade that annoys me the most, the way they think they are the One True Labour Party and everybody who disagrees with them is an evil Trotskyite infiltrator from hell (tm) who should be spat upon and purged from ~their~ party. That they are somehow the ones fighting the good fight, despite the fact they have destroyed the opposition to the Tories over the past year with their constant disloyalty and selfish power-mad game-playing ( ... )

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danieldwilliam September 25 2016, 16:08:24 UTC

If Corbyn has exactly the appeal people are looking for why are his personal approval ratings so bad?

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gonzo21 September 25 2016, 20:04:08 UTC
If Corbyn has no appeal why is the Labour party membership at a historic high?

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danieldwilliam September 26 2016, 10:33:27 UTC
I think because those who like that sort of thing like that sort of thing. They have made the mistake of thinking that because Something must be done and that Corbyn in something so Corbyn in the Something that must be done ( ... )

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