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ext_2864067 September 25 2016, 11:56:48 UTC
'Article 50 has to be invoked now'

No, I can't agree with the Edinburgh Eye writer about their absurdly over-generous interpretation of Corbyn's words.

He has persistently been lukewarm about Remain.

He used those words, and should have understood the possibility of misinterpretation if that's not what he meant.

He has had ample opportunities to clarify his actual meaning and has not.

So, I'd chalk that one up to wishful thinking; the writer reinterpreting the Words of St Jeremy to fit their own political dogma.

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gonzo21 September 25 2016, 14:22:07 UTC
I thought Corbyn campaigned very enthusiastically for Remain. I saw some of his speeches on youtube, and they were very good and passionate.

It was the media who kept saying he was lukewarm. But actually watching the man in action, I thought he was very good.

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ext_2864067 September 25 2016, 15:11:54 UTC
He refused to share a pro-Remain platform with Cameron.

He's on record as saying that he was about 70-75% in favour of Remain.

That's pretty damn lukewarm signals he was putting out.

His supporters can't blame the media for everything he gets wrong, and as for the anti-Corbyn blinkered self-righteousness that you mention below, the pro-Corbyn Labour people have that in plentiful supply too.

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gonzo21 September 25 2016, 15:17:44 UTC
I think Corbyn had in mind what happened to Scottish labour for sharing a platform with the Tories...

Had he shared a platform with Cameron, I think it could have been similarly catastrophic. And just not worth the risk.

I think, given what happened in Scotland, that not sharing a platform with Cameron was a very wise decision.

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ext_2864067 September 25 2016, 17:27:09 UTC
Maybe so, but it was very pointedly putting party politics above the issue in question, and I think that made him appear less than committed.

I'd agree that he was caught between two fires. However, there's a cost for the choice he made as well as the choice he declined.

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gonzo21 September 25 2016, 20:07:11 UTC
Definitely caught between two fires, he was going to be crucified whatever he did.

But I think not sharing a platform with the Tories was still the right thing to do.

And it was strategically better to ensure that Brexit remains perceived as a Tory mess. Because Brexit could well be the destruction of this Tory government. I can really honestly see Corbyn winning a post-brexit-catastrophe GE. Once people realise just how bad it's going to be.

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