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bart_calendar May 8 2016, 13:39:33 UTC
The reading t hing should shock nobody.

Males will learn to excel at anything if it can be made into a game.

If you manufactured "Laundry Hero" and gave points and had a leaderboard online and different levels, women who lived with men would never, ever have to do laundry again and everything would be perfectly washed and folded and dudes would be rushing home from work to do the laundry.

Same if you made "Dishwasher Hero" or "Toilet Scrubber Hero."

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kalimac May 8 2016, 14:47:49 UTC
This is the sort of declaration that makes me think "I am not a male," because what you describe is so very not me. Yet I appear to be male, and I'm certainly not secretly longing to be a transsexual woman, and I'm not even homosexual. So what am I?

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bart_calendar May 8 2016, 14:54:10 UTC
Sorry I thought it was clear I was satirically generalizing.

Clearly not all males (and clearly some males are good at laundry now!)

But if you made it into a game there are a large number of males who would suddenly find it more interesting.

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kalimac May 8 2016, 15:03:18 UTC
Sure, you can be sarcastically generalizing, and sorry if I poured too much irritation over you. But the mere fact that such a generalization is possible, even as a joke, reinforces the deep alienation I've felt from "manhood" ever since it was "boyhood" and in fact even more then.

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andrewducker May 8 2016, 22:33:17 UTC
This is where things like "Chore Wars" and other Gamification things work really well. Once you assign points to things, people want _all_ the points...

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bart_calendar May 9 2016, 00:18:42 UTC
Yep.

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channelpenguin May 9 2016, 06:47:46 UTC

I don't give a fuck about points. For anything. But I really do get zero enjoyment from games or competition. I've tried long and often enough to know. (Roleplaying was different that was co-operative. ) I very very much like to be good at things, but I don't need comparisons or other reward such as points. I'm the only judge I will (willingly) allow. [rather unfortunately for my mental health, I'm a hard-ass bitch perfectionist, so I struggle to be happy, but hey, it's better than the alternatives]

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channelpenguin May 9 2016, 06:42:02 UTC

Ex military men (sailors or soldiers, I dunno any airmen) are insanely AWESOME at all housework tasks. Point made, I guess.

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