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rivier August 6 2006, 02:52:47 UTC
Amen. I had much the same thoughts, about Carson and Sheppard both in those two scenes.

And then I carried on brooding and really depressed myself.

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amireal August 6 2006, 02:58:39 UTC
I rewrote this a couple of times because it was really hard to pinpoint what bothered me. Originally it was a "this is why I don't get your ship" thing for Rodney/Carson because this vibe has been there for a while.

As for John, I do blame the writers, I think they're falling into their own trap. They're using DH has a crutch in a number of ways because it's easier. It's also easier to funny!stupid than funny!smart. And I also think they're projecting a bit, esp the two who claim to BE Rodney on occassion. I mean, I know I've had that friendship before and how damaging it can be.

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rivier August 6 2006, 03:32:32 UTC
Carson and Rodney have clearly had a needling relationship from the off - interactions over the chair, or Carson twitting Rodney mildly as he prepares to administer the ATA gene treatment. I guess there will be people who will point to Rodney mocking Carson's useless flying skills and fear of the chair, and say that it's just turnabout to have Carson calling Rodney a great big baby for protesting about an arrow in the arse. Like you, I'd kind of prefer my doctor to have a degree more professionalism, especially if the same doctor can't seem to get something as simple as a morphine dose for an established patient of his remotely right ( ... )

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muppetk August 6 2006, 03:27:37 UTC
So you know I have to defend Carson here. I've had overwrought patients. The ones who have more neuroses than physical problem. The big problem with them is that they give you SO MUCH information that it becomes difficult to sort out what's important. Worse, they can be so panicked/strident that it makes it harder to focus. Yes, you take it all down -- unless they're going on and on about something irrelevant -- such as the intimate details of their personal life when you're just trying to get a few facts. They're just difficult to deal with ( ... )

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inthekeyofd August 6 2006, 03:29:01 UTC
I'm not a fan of Carson's sometimes either..but if you notice, Carson does get away with a lot while Rodney is called on every single thing..but that's just my opinion. I think that Rodney has been the butt (not pun intended) of a lot of jokes, and sometimes, it's a the character's expense ( ... )

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amireal August 6 2006, 03:32:40 UTC
Quickly, because headache:

But I do think he thought that Rodney was going overboard with his complaining..but that's not for me to say, that's all on the writer.

He could be thinking it yes... but I sense he's dismissing far too much. But yeah, it could totally be the writers.

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brabbel August 7 2006, 19:28:40 UTC
Even though this is not directed at me, I just have to chime in to agree with what you said. I just recently thought of Trinity and how Rodney had to practically beg for forgiveness (not only Zelenka who's understandable but everyone else's as well) whereas Carson is co-responsible for creating a treatment that killed off half of a planet's population and now for creating this retrovirus. Carson's ego is just as big as Rodney's, at least he's as sure of his professional research - just not so obvious about it. Otherwise, he'd have abandoned the retrovirus after "Michael" at the latest ( ... )

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sgafan33 August 6 2006, 03:40:01 UTC
I don't find Carson and Rodney slashy on the show. And, hey, they aren't supposed to be! I think they act like squabbling brothers. Which I kinda like ( ... )

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amireal August 6 2006, 03:42:19 UTC
I swear to god, longer replies after sleep. But for now:

I want to rename this show:

Stargate Atlantis: Where the socially retarded go to play.

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muppetk August 6 2006, 03:54:15 UTC
Well, duh.

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chrissie_m August 6 2006, 04:31:02 UTC
"I don't like that Rodney, when seriously injured, is given the run around by his doctor ..."

Sometimes Carson does bug me as a physician, with the eye-rolling and the exasperated comments; he certainly doesn't come off well compared to Janet Fraiser, for example. But I soothe myself with the reminder that he's not really a physician; he's a geneticist, a researcher, who's probably been forced into patient care because they all have to do double duty. And he totally sucks at it.

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victoriaely August 6 2006, 20:11:22 UTC
he's a geneticist, a researcher, who's probably been forced into patient care because they all have to do double duty.There are a few other people who have expressed this view, and at first the Carson fan in me disagreed. Later on, I realised that CArson doesn't behave as a doctor with the others, but rather as a friend. He is a researcher and a surgeon, which don't imply or require wonderful bedside manners ( ... )

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brabbel August 7 2006, 17:18:57 UTC
But if that's so then where's the "real" doctor? It's kind of irresponsible not to send a doctor trained in the field so to speak on such a potentially dangerous mission...

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bruinsfan August 7 2006, 17:56:30 UTC
I think that view of Carson is very apt. He's on the expedition because he's the world's foremost expert on ATA genetics, not because he's Trapper John. And I think it gets overlooked that he's at least as brilliant in his particular specialization as McKay or Zelenka are in theirs. The latter two are obviously prodigies at jury-rigging unfamiliar advanced technologies and improvising, which is probably more useful from a military viewpoint. But Carson has achieved frickin' magic in less than two years, creating a highly contagious retrovirus that literally remakes sentient beings into something else in the span of ten hours. And there's been no clear indication that he co-opted Ancient research or technology to achieve that.

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