Men's fashions here certainly got a lot more formal from 2011 onwards, once the recession hit and globally things started to go more wrong, it may be that increased competition for work means they've got to put more effort in. Also [and I do like noticing what the men are wearing :) as I walk around] they've definitely started dressing more "military", by which I mean they're wearing either suits which are basically Military Officer dress suits or stuff which looks like they're going on some sort of special ops Operation. I think that's also to communicate that they're capable and mean business to people who might give them money. They're actually more and more moving away from the "Officer Mess Suits" into more "operations clothes" probably because they have to look like they're fighting. I actually think men tend to dress to impress other men, not women. If they want to impress women they do their hair, take their tie off and loosen up. Men dress down for women and up for business, whereas women dress up for men and down for business. Would be my observation.
We have been trending towards casual. Stampeding towards it. No ties, yoga pants, wild beards, messy hair, etc. But i have seen a certain shift, now that you mention. The wild beards are getting tamed. Women's hair is going back up into cleaner styles. Maybe suits are back? suppose it is rump and his ties pushing it along? conservatives?
shapes. edit to say that women's hair trend i see right now is putting it up into shapes. like a fan or double bubble or like that
In the 1995 - 2008 period it was no ties, yoga pants, hoodies and baseball caps and nike sneakers. Very American style, and the buildings that got built looked American. And we got Shopping Malls, Big Supermarkets and McDonald's. And Pop Tarts and Nickelodeon. I think it was because the pound was so strong against the dollar so everyone was just going to the US all the time. I must have told you this before, but when we went to the US every summer we took empty suitcases and on Day 1 my Mum took us to the Malls and told us to buy up everything. Because it was vastly, vastly cheaper. Obviously, every single day of my school life I wore uniform, so for 300 days of the year I wore the same damn outfit anyway, of the remaining non-Uniform stuff probably 80+% was purchased in America. Certainly all my sneakers were. And that's what basically everyone did. So we all dressed like Americans cause that's where we were purchasing the clothes.
The Economic and Political Change in the last decade probably shifted us to more conservative clothing choices also in part because there's less shopping in the United States occurring. Also, since The Tenth Doctor, wearing suits, tie and converses became universal amongst men under 30. He probably did actually genuinely lead to an fashion uptick in suit wearing. For people brought up on Harry Potter and The Tenth Doctor, ties, blazers and suits are actually what their icons wear on a day to day basis. Sherlock led to a noticeable rise in swishy coats and scarves. Bond coming back then led to the men over 30 wearing the suits and tuxes as well. It'll be a combination of all these things.
Back in the 90s and early 2000s when their role models were American, they dressed like Nirvana, Eminem the guy in the Levi Advert and Michael Jordan.
I do think the suit trend here is heading more from "lounge suit" to "outdoor shooting party suit/military uniform" now though.
Which yes, actually, may be in response in order to differentiate from the "Trump Style", which I'd call "New York Banker/Mob Style" I assume that's why the patterns and pinstripes are coming back here because the Trump Family don't tend to wear those. There was an article in the newspaper actually about "Trump Style" in both clothes and interior design [The BBC previously have called it "Dictator Style"] About whether it's snobbery we should stop. Because, I don't know why but generally the British attitude was to take one look at Trump decor and go "oh good god no" Like, it's just hideous for inexplicable reasons. But it's snobbery isn't it, and we should really control that more. The article was basically arguing that the Family are the most powerful Family on the planet, and it says something about a moral deficit in ourselves that we look down on them because of their choice of panelling and lighting fixtures. The struggle to take the Trump Family seriously [even when he's now President] is in part because everything about them is lacking in....well.....class. They've always had privileged and wealth, but that never conveys "class" which I can't even define other than I know the Trump Family don't have it. But that's epic levels of snobbery isn't it. Do we not want the Queen to meet Trump because we don't like his ideas politically [on occasion she meets Putin, who's literally blown up British civilians via accidental incompetence and who's planes keep buzzing the RAF simply to annoy them] or is it because we think the Trump Family is simply too uncouth and lacking in good taste. It's probably more the later. And that is not kind and it's prejudice. We should be able to look beyond such things. It's a severe moral deficit that our first instinct is to look down upon them. And it's hubris, in that in reality we simply cannot afford to not ingratiate ourselves to some degree with the new US leader, nobody on the planet can. No matter how much the planet may laugh at them, the are [for now] the new Caesars. This is all a good lesson in why pride is a sin,[clearly Trump is a curse sent by God to plague humanity anyway] and is thus an opportunity for some introspective national character improvement. He might have terrible taste, character and manners, but in such a position of weakness where we'd have to literally beg of favours because we have nothing to offer in return, there's little point maintaining any sort of hubris. I'm not sure if even an attempt at dignity is even possible in these sort of circumstances, he's the most powerful man on the planet.
Just because you have to do business with someone doesn't mean you have to approve of them. You dont have to like your boss at work, you just have to be pleasant. Stupid remains stupid and painting it with gold doesn't make it any different. Sometimes it makes it easier to look at, but not often.
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But i have seen a certain shift, now that you mention. The wild beards are getting tamed. Women's hair is going back up into cleaner styles. Maybe suits are back? suppose it is rump and his ties pushing it along?
conservatives?
shapes. edit to say that women's hair trend i see right now is putting it up into shapes. like a fan or double bubble or like that
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The Economic and Political Change in the last decade probably shifted us to more conservative clothing choices also in part because there's less shopping in the United States occurring. Also, since The Tenth Doctor, wearing suits, tie and converses became universal amongst men under 30. He probably did actually genuinely lead to an fashion uptick in suit wearing. For people brought up on Harry Potter and The Tenth Doctor, ties, blazers and suits are actually what their icons wear on a day to day basis. Sherlock led to a noticeable rise in swishy coats and scarves. Bond coming back then led to the men over 30 wearing the suits and tuxes as well. It'll be a combination of all these things.
Back in the 90s and early 2000s when their role models were American, they dressed like Nirvana, Eminem the guy in the Levi Advert and Michael Jordan.
I do think the suit trend here is heading more from "lounge suit" to "outdoor shooting party suit/military uniform" now though.
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Stupid remains stupid and painting it with gold doesn't make it any different. Sometimes it makes it easier to look at, but not often.
You can Downton Abbey eyebrow at Us in the pubs anytime you want
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