It's A Symbol Of A Landmine We Can Easily Step On

Nov 02, 2007 19:25

I thought I would address a few comments about my use of Hitlerpope which some took as highly offensive (but others, mostly ex-Catholics, found to be highly funny.) You should know that this icon was created by an Asatruar is an ex-Catholic and who has followed the Pope's background very closely. He's also been called the Panzer Pope and was part ( Read more... )

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cartoonmayhem November 3 2007, 01:01:36 UTC
I really did hear that. At a pagan festival I was gathered at in New Joisey. And I never went back. The hostess hailed all of the above while pointing a plastic wand with a purple star on the end of it. *buries head in shame at the memory* I don't know where her head is at but I also meant to add this: In Indianapolis before I became Asatru been at a house of Pagan worship that had Christian protesters outside it and then the house was mysteriously vandalized. The house eventually closed.

Also, I meant to say the icon was also an expression of free speech by a man who came by there honestly. Anyone who has been beaten by a nun can feel this way about the pope if he likes. Physical abuse was a damn sure form of terrorism.

One of the reasons why I became Asatru in the first place was that we were a heathen group who were not afraid to fight back and we're not afraid to identify our potential destroyers by name. So many pagans are afraid to fight back because they think that they have to always play nice. That it affects their Karma (watch it when you put together a cafeteria-style religion) Guess what: they get harassed precisely because they won't fight back and those Christians knew this.

Also another point to consider is this: as women we are always told we can't be angry. So anger turned inwards leads to distraction. I put up a sarcastic icon. Against a religion that has told us we are always second class citizens. Offended? Why? Oh, so we can't hit back if we're hit first? No. Not buying it. We played nice for centuries and look where it got us. We took back the streets and look where we are now. We need an equal voice in our religion. We need to know who are friends are but we also need to be very aware of who are enemies are and what they are trying to do to us. We need to fight the good fight.

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cartoonmayhem November 3 2007, 01:10:24 UTC
Who our enemies are and what they are trying to do this. Damn my dyslexia. Damn it to Hel.

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fluffyluggage November 3 2007, 01:21:37 UTC
A plastic wand with a purple star on the end of it... Well, I guess should have been the first clue. *snicker* No, I'm a firm believer, through several horrible life experiences that, especially as a woman (and you may have been privy to some of the info already, not sure), I'm going to fight for myself, and I'm going to stick up for myself. I believe in carrying a gun, if that's what you feel you need to do to protect yourself, and trust me, there are times when it would have saved me from serious harm.

I'm very sarcastic about a lot of things, but my beliefs aren't one. I am definitely Pagan, I know the Gods and Goddesses who have called to me, and I am studying WitchCraft. Past that, I can't tell you more. I've been called to 2 Norse Gods (well, a God and a Goddess), and now that I know more about them I can tell you why. I've always been one to educate myself about all religions, and I think I can identify with a lot of different Pagan spiritual paths. I want to learn more about heathenry, but there are things I won't tolerate, and incorporating Christianity is one. I've been ridiculed and persecuted by that group for far too long.

I've also been in physically AND emotionally abusive relationships, and believe me, I'll take the physical terrorism any day over emotional. At least there is a physical scar you can point to, and people can see why you have it, and that it's there. And you can seek help and prove that you've been abused. Emotional terrorism is pretty hard to prove. It takes a lot more to be able to prove it. It's a he said/she said situation. And it's often a lot harder to disengage from. So is true for religiously emotional terrorism, I'd suspect.

I don't like to fight. I think it's ridiculous that we CAN'T all get along. And certainly within your own religion/spiritual path. But, at the same time, I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone beat me up. I've taken way too much of that throughout my life to put up with it any longer, so I will fight back if I'm pushed. I'd prefer not to, but I will if I'm made to. I just think it's pathetic. *shrugs*

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