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Feb 04, 2006 17:32

This is my first post in more than a month. I've been busy since december and that's why I haven't really had time to post. The time I have is actively invested in my sleep time. Everybody who knows about the shit that's gone down in and outside of school knows that it doesn't belong in a livejournal. So anything concerning our IB life and the like ( Read more... )

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nervousmonkey February 4 2006, 23:01:28 UTC
all i know is i dont consider myself completely open-minded. i listen to rock and thats pretty much it. indie, mainstream-not so much tho, some experimental like dredg, and mostly punk, thats what i limit myself too. and the occasional jazz song when im in the mood. i know im not open-minded and im quite proud of it. and also quantity of music does not equal quality, being open minded is different from quantity, if uve heard one song from every genre u could consider that open minded. i consider myself openminded in the sense of rock in that i will listen to almost any rock song someone tells me and i will tell them if its good or not, thinking something is bad doesnt mean ur closed minded it just means u have tastes that dont mirror the type of song. having more music than u can fit on ur ipod isnt necessarily good it just means u have a lot of money and spend it on music. open-minded is a petty 2 word phrase that i think doesnt belong in the realm of music or anything, everyone has preferences no one is truly indifferent or 'open ( ... )

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weskaplan February 4 2006, 23:50:49 UTC
sigh

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winterflamingo February 5 2006, 01:11:14 UTC
I would classify myself as open minded toward music. I don't necessarily own a lot of music, however I do like to listen to almost all kinds of music. I can't think of anything I'm particularly opposed to, except for anything that just involves people screaming, which is not, really, music. But, yeah, what joe said, the phrase 'open minded' doesn't apply so much, unless open minded = willing to listen to.

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weskaplan February 5 2006, 05:51:38 UTC
why isn't people screaming not really music? your ear probably isn't shaped to appreciate it. being "opposed" to any type of art cancels outs whatever open mindedness you claim to have. i'm not necessarily accusing you of this, but people who don't have a lot of music tend to think they know what everything sounds like. the more you hear the more you realize you don't know much at all

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Debatable aliencrs31 February 5 2006, 09:26:26 UTC
I agree, there are instances where somebody may say of a song "oh, god, that's horrible", and they simply won't appreciate what there is to be appreciated there. If somebody approaches me about The Mars Volta and just says "No, too rowdy and just disorderly, it's bad", then that person doesn't understand the true genius that some of their composition entails. I'm not saying they are geniuses themselves, or quintessential prodigies, but they certainly have an approach to music and rhythm that is original. And even if you don't agree with my example, there are several other bands I have had the misfortune of having criticized by people who have no musical aptitude. But there is music that I can say, with so much certainty, is poor in its musical qualities. And while it is hard to contend that something "is not really music" or music at all, you can say that it is "bad music" because you know and have heard enough to tell that the ideas that it encompasses are not original and predictable.

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Re: Debatable weskaplan February 5 2006, 18:50:46 UTC
i don't think there's any real opposition to the idea of there being good music and bad music. here is the point i am trying to make. the way something sounds, as in its pure sonic quality, is just as important to me as the musicianship and composition behind it. this may just be an aesthetic ideal, but there's a reason why some people prefer lofi to hifi. as soon as you begin to appreciate everything on a more elemental level, you can appreciate more things (or sometimes fewer things) about it.

1) your reasons for disliking rap still seem hypocritical to me, 2) i'm sure not what you mean by "techno" (all electronic music or just shitty eurotrash?), and 3) i don't really know what your point is in saying that country music isn't intelligent.

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kissonthelips37 February 5 2006, 04:57:25 UTC
Santiago,
mon cher ami
tu es mon petit mouton tres joli! ou es tu? je ne te vu pas plus! j'aime ton voiture! oh et j'ai presque oublie. je veux donner naissance à ton bebes. le motel dans us1 est ouvert ce soir. allons il baby! voies-tu la a les deux heurs
j'espere que tu as compris tout que je a dit
<3 la belle marina

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aliencrs31 February 5 2006, 09:19:58 UTC
Joe, you are right in saying that quantity of music does not necessarily equal quality. And yes, it is relative in terms of what type of "open mindedness" you could be talking about. But i'm not talking about being open minded about all jazz music, or any one genre, but instead all music that you come about. I truly do believe that there is good music and bad music, and to certain extent this can be proven. Music that lacks in composition, in musicianship, and is predictable and ordinarily simple is bad music to me, because it does not require much thought, and has little originality. And to that extent I believe somebody who is open-minded can listen and recognize good music, regardless of genre, and can also tell what is bad music and say "No, I don't like it" without it contradicting the fact that he is open-minded. I can, with much certainty, tell you that there is music that I have heard that people love that I myself don't like because it revolves around predictable chord changes, voicings that are cliche, and the lyrics don't ( ... )

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