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[alexwearspants]

Man so I have really been enjoying this Five Things meme that's been going around over the past few days. Reading other people's meta is awesome. I am sort of sad though because although I love discussing this shit this is the kind of meme I will never participate in ever. Mainly because I am a very reactive analyser? I do have opinions on all

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[alexwearspants]

Oh man the 30 Days of Who meme? I am ... doesn't that have a lot of 'pick your favourites'? Yeah, automatically I am out. But! Timing!

we love her because Seven loves her, and we love Seven because she loves him, and that's really all there is to be said about it. Thiiiiiis is just beautiful and perfect and right. So right. And yes - it's so much easier to love characters when other characters love them (and when that love is clearly supported by the text). Evelyn and Six are another pair like this for me, and of course Jamie and Two. Though what I find interesting about Two and Jamie is that they are wonderful BFFs who I adore, and you think it's perfect, and then you get Zoe involved and suddenly realise that things are better with three. But it's not that something was missing when she wasn't there, it was just that when she turned up you realised you'd been needing her and not knowing it.

Yeah, tbh I don't particularly ship Romana/Four it's just that ... if any Doctor/Companion ship was close to canon, I'd say that was it. I don't have to like it, but I'll accept it. Oooh Jack is ... I can see it? But I can see it as something Ten regrets, or as something Nine did as part of the Nine/Rose/Jack weird-and-wonderful-ness, and even then it's not liking so much as accepting? Nyssa I don't think I can ever see because to me Five is such a replacement father to her? Also I ship Nyssa/Tegan like burning.

And there are times where - like, I can see why people ship Jo/Three, esp. as an unrequited crush thing? But I ignore it very hard and don't ever want to read it. Also Jamie/Two is almost acceptable at times. But then we get into my whole 'cultural age vs. actual age' wherein, say, Nyssa and Jamie are the same age in years, for example, but whereas Nyssa seems pretty young - she's like the equivalent of our modern teenagers, really, not in any way an adult in her culture - Jamie is a man by his own people's standards, and by his own sense of self identity? He went into battle and fought to the death with his people, he could have married and might have had kids by his age. He certainly would have been working and making tough decisions for years. Which er. Is not to say that I ship Jamie/Doctor, so much as I tend to think differently about the age thing than most people and went off on a tangent.

Also I was just thinking about it and I think maybe Jamie and Nyssa are like the youngest TARDIS companions? Except - oh Vicki. Dodo. GDI self do not forget One! Victoria! Ace. GDI!! .... Ok now I really am tangenting but yes. Donna. She makes good points.

[janeturenne]

Who!Nyssa/Five, I can't see at all. BFA!Nyssa, it's more that I think she has a giant crush and it's adorable but if anybody ever wrote/drew actual sexings I would probably run and hide because yes, there's definitely the age difference and it's more of a 'hot for teacher' sort of thing in my head. Two/Jamie, I can do unrequited but Two is just so very asexual in my head and really I just want it to be purely friendship in spite of the clinging. And Three/Jo I have an instinctive "oh god no" except then there's this edge of twisted fascination and then a terrible, terrible exemption for Three/Jo/Delgado and I have no idea what's going on in my brain, really, where Jo is concerned.

Mostly what I'm doing for the "pick your favorites" bits of the Who meme is "you must be kidding if you want ONE so here are ALL my favorites" and that seems to be working so far. Picking one, that wouldn't work so well.

I think what works for me about Jack is that, with Jack, you kind of get to have your cake and eat it, because on the one hand Jack is so very clearly in love with the Doctor, and yet at the same time he's JACK so there could be something casual and it would actually be casual and those two things don't contradict in my head somehow. Which is actually also exactly how I feel about Leela, is, yes, she adores the Doctor, but at the same time there could be all kinds of unclad goings-on and that wouldn't add to or diminish the adoring at all in her head, I don't think, just be this sort of...other thing. Leela and Jack both, they're so physical, as characters, and so I kind of give them an exemption to be physical and not have it really count quite the same way. Especially because they're both adults, their characters are done percolating, so it's not quite as snarly for me as some of the younger companions.

You are SO right about Zoe and the Team Two dynamics. Perfectly said, dahling.

[alexwearspants]

Yeah, I definitely thing BFA!Nyssa is much .... idk, instinctively I want to say more mature than Who!Nyssa? At least, she reads as older to me, and they feel like really good friends? But idk, maybe it's the odd BFA!Five characterisation, I still can't really see it? And Jamie/Two ... I can see it, but i prefer to shake my head and go 'when the WC moves in with them he and Jamie will be BFFs and he will gladly give up his clinging ways like a GENTLEMAN so that the WC can feel secure. Even though he knows there is nothing there.' ....Because d/m trumps all yo.

Oooohhh Jo/Three/Delgado. My mind is literally blanking atm, it's not even a squick I just ... it's like negative space. I can't see anything there Jane. Nothing. I mean, I cannot imagine a scenario ... I'm kind of fascinated, how would that work?

Ahahaha that is definitely the way to go. If I could keep up a posting schedule I would do that kind of thing, but I will read with interest instead.

Interestingly I think I find Leela easier to see than Jack? Just because Four is her Doctor, and she lucked out there because Four doesn't really love his companions? He cares about them, he enjoys their company, but he doesn't love them in the same intense way Three does, or even the 'don't know how to actually show you argh argh emotions get it off' way that Five does. He likes them. He doesn't love them. So I can easily see some no strings attached sex there without any complications, but that's not quite the same thing as shipping. And idk, again, I don't seek it out? But I don't seem to seek out many ships in whodom, even the ones I can see.

Ahaha why thankyou *bows* I quite like your use of 'percolating' myself.

[janeturenne]

The War Chief and Jamie would be total BFFs. You've just made me desperately want a fic where they have all the good times. With an 80's sitcom title sequence. God what is my brain even.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW IT WOULD WORK but I want it. Three/Jo/Delgado. And it bothers me that I want it, but I do anyway. Possibly a case of it's a late night in the lab and the Master has stopped by for *ahem* a social call and Jo has forgotten her coat so she wanders back in and stop me now Alex this is not a place brains were meant to wander except it would work. Jo is the Master's companion as much as the Doctor's in my head, she's the only companion he likes. This is all the Time Monster's fault, there's the bit with Jo's coccyx and that's really, just. If that's not an OT3 scene I've never seen one in my life. But I don't want to want it, it just hasn't really given me a choice.

Yeah, I don't actively seek out Four/Leela, or Doctor/Jack either for that matter, but if it popped up on my flist I would read it and probably like it. The only Who 'ships I go LOOKING for are D/M and anything in the Gallifrey 'verse, because those poor Time Lords are so overworked and so undersexed that they need to be getting some every now and then IMHO.