Want the proof that 9/11 was an inside job?

Jun 08, 2006 02:50

Do you think it's possible our government could have aided, or even carried out the attacks of September 11th? Do you think that any suggestion of such a thing is ridiculous "conspiracy theory?" If so, I welcome you to read on, and even more, feel free to question me or raise any doubts you might have, or evidence you've found which contradicts ( Read more... )

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Re: continued a_priori June 9 2006, 14:06:42 UTC
The only person with the undisputed authority to give a shoot-down order was George Bush. Cheney, Rumsfeld, and a couple military people have since claimed that they could have given such orders, but 10 minutes after the first attack no one was going to go out on a limb and shoot down a commercial jet without first consulting the president.
31 minutes passed between the time Bush was informed of the second Trade Center strike and the time Flight 77 hit the Pentagon. He wasted about half that time continuing with his photo op and holding a press conference at the school. Then the Secret Service rushed him into a car and to the airport. Apparently they feared an attack on the motorcade. I think it's entirely reasonable to conclude that, in those 15 or so minutes after the photo-up, Bush did not have the time to process all of the information and authorize shoot-down orders for any and all commercial airliners (there is no evidence that he had been specifically informed of the threat from Flight 77 at that point). Is it his fault that he didn't leave the photo-op immediately? Yes. But that doesn't prove a grand conspiracy.

WHY was it not protected that morning when two attacks on high profile targets had already occured

Once again, only 34 minutes passed between the time Flight 175 hit the World Trade Center and the time Flight 77 hit the Pentagon. In that time, the military did scramble fighters. They did attempt to protect DC airspace, although they didn't do so quickly enough. You apparently believe that the three jets going out of Langley were deliberately given confusing orders, rather than simply being confused in the uncoordinated rush to deal with an unprecedented and rapidly evolving situation. I don't think you have any evidence at all for your belief. But even if you're right, note that you've completely given up your original assumption that the ongoing wargames interfered with air defense, and now assert a deliberate and sinister order to mislead defensive measures.

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Re: continued alephomega June 10 2006, 08:18:12 UTC
"But even if you're right, note that you've completely given up your original assumption that the ongoing wargames interfered with air defense, and now assert a deliberate and sinister order to mislead defensive measures."

No. since many of the planes that were diverted would likely have been undergoing routine patrols and training excercises on the east coast, and would have already been in the air, thus not even requiring scrambling planes on the ground.

http://www.standdown.net/noradseptember182001pressrelease.htm.

From what I understand, these are NORAD's response times. After the second plane hit the world trade center at 9:02, why weren't fighters immediately scrambled from Langley to patrol the skies above the nation's capitol in response to multiple hijackings and obvious (by then) terrorist attacks on high profile targets? NORAD obviously knew something was amiss since it first scrambled fighters at 8:52. Yet... no. They apparently waited until 9:30 to even get fucking fighters off the ground at Langley. It makes absolutely no sense.

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