...it was only one question...

Nov 02, 2002 16:38

Allright, here's the deal...I got really bored, so I decided to have some fun in a Christian chat room. I was serious in the questions that I asked, and I got some great laughs. I asked one question in both chatrooms and I never once got a straight answer. The question was "What are the teachings of Christ?" Here is how the chat went.

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s_h_a_r_o_n_33: hi bunky
grandmaanne1: hi bunky
lucky44645: hi eirnie
grandmaanne1: wb stanton
homesweethome2u: Hello everyone!
grandmaanne1: hi angelique
bunkybean44813: hey sharon
moulinrouge_us: any asian in the room?
ernie_the_fish: read ur profile sorry bout ur loss
grandmaanne1: how ya'll doing today?
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bunkybean44813: hiya star
grandmaanne1: hi star
stary_nite7: hi
angelique_halrequin_avatar: Well met, all
angelique_halrequin_avatar: may i ask a few questions?
homesweethome2u: It's a beautiful day here today.....58-62 degrees and sunny
bunkybean44813: hiys papa stanton
lucky44645: u did
ernie_the_fish: yes
stary_nite7: how are you doing
ernie_the_fish: of course
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mothermaye: WE ALL CAN MAKE IT JUST PUT OUR TRUST IN JESUS
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lucky44645: pretty sad huh
homesweethome2u: Go ahead and ask
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grandmaanne1: hi mabelle
ernie_the_fish: and i mean it to
prophecy4him: ~O)
stanton30001: hiys bunky gal
mabelle1955: HELLO BUNKY
grandmaanne1: hi quark
prophecy4him: ~o)
angelique_halrequin_avatar: can someone here tell me the teachings of this faith?
homesweethome2u: Ask away......
bunkybean44813: hi mabelle
mabelle1955: HELLO GRANDMAANNE
s_h_a_r_o_n_33: did you get it prophecy
homesweethome2u: this faith?
ernie_the_fish: r u ok screamin?
prophecy4him: not yet it willbe here
angelique_halrequin_avatar: i have asked this question many times...and no one gives me a straight answer...
homesweethome2u: Believers in Jesus Christ.........that he is our Savior and Redeemer......
angelique_halrequin_avatar: yes, this is Christian...right?
mabelle1955: HEY STACEY
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quarkburger: Take note, theologians, that in your desire to make matters of faith out of propositions relating to the fixity of sun and earth you run the risk of eventually having to condemn as heretics those who would declare the earth to stand still and the sun to change position. -- Galileo
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stacy_georgiapeach: hey mabelle
grandmaanne1: yes angelique
angelique_halrequin_avatar: no, i asked "what are the teachings"
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lucky44645: no im not ernie
lucky44645: not at all
homesweethome2u: Follow his teachings in the Bible......and Pray and Seek learning.......even by study and faith.
stacy_georgiapeach: sorry in im, almost missed ya
prophecy4him: brb
grandmaanne1: hi bob
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s_h_a_r_o_n_33: k
grandmaanne1: hi tune man
ernie_the_fish: can i be of any help?
bob_major: hi grand

homesweethome2u: Jesus said......If ye love me Keep my commandments......John14:15.......That is what Believers in Christ try to do.
lucky44645: theres nothing anyone can do
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grandmaanne1: amen home
lucky44645: i just wish i knew why i was in here
homesweethome2u:
angelique_halrequin_avatar: i understand that this religion is based on the teachings of Christe...but...what are those teachings
your_tune_man: hi grandma
s_h_a_r_o_n_33: brb
ernie_the_fish: oh sorry, maybe u need to know god loves u very much, if u dont mind me saying that is.
homesweethome2u: Lucky......cuz you have nothing else better to do? And you are seeking some kind of peace in your life probably.....and some kind of direction.
homesweethome2u: God loves us and has a plan for us.
lucky44645: a plan for heartach
angelique_halrequin_avatar: well...can anyone answer my question?
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homesweethome2u: What is the purpose of this life anyway? Is that what you're thinking.
redtiger1988: that's what I believe home
ernie_the_fish: a cure for heartache, healing
homesweethome2u: Jesus said.......Come unto me" All that are heavy Laden and I will give you rest......Take my yoke upon you, and find peace to your souls.
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lucky44645: what is the pupous of your so called god taking a child right out of your arms
xxastaroth666xx: loves what are you doing!!!!
stanton30001: cyber how come you turned your ears off
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angelique_halrequin_avatar: ...home....you're not directing that toward me are you?
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angelique_halrequin_avatar: because...it doesn't answer my question
homesweethome2u: Come unto Jesus Ye heavy laden care worn and fainting by sin, opressed.....He will surely guide you, and send the comforting of his love and spirit.
ernie_the_fish: i cant imagine the pain u have been through, and i dont wish to patronise u
homesweethome2u: What angelique?
homesweethome2u: What question?
angelique_halrequin_avatar: i didn't think anyone here heard it
s_h_a_r_o_n_33: no she called though and i told them to coem on home
angelique_halrequin_avatar: ]i asked "what are the teachings of this faith?"
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bunkybean44813: bye everyone GBU saints
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homesweethome2u: What question? Like you.....I just stopped by this room, I have no idea what faith all the people in here practice really.
ernie_the_fish: but suffering does come to us all in some shape or form and we can allow it to destroy us or make us stronger and better
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homesweethome2u: I suppose we are all believers in Christ.......with our own faiths.....and different opinions.
angelique_halrequin_avatar: well, logical reasoning leads me to believe that they are christian
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angelique_halrequin_avatar: yes, but still, you should all know the teachings of the man you believe in...right?
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homesweethome2u: Well......Yes.....people who believe in Jesus Christ are usually deemed " Christians".
homesweethome2u: KNow all??? I think it's a life long learning process.
litl_david: loves its boring in here wake them up
crockerssue_1: im back ur boots cant stop me
dg1642185: anyone in the DFW area...IM me
s_h_a_r_o_n_33: wb sue
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homesweethome2u: But,,,,,,the Bible says......by the power of the Holy Ghost You my know the truth of all things.
crockerssue_1: im in texas alot but not now
angelique_halrequin_avatar: no, i said "....you should all know...." not all know
cyber_buttmunch: better
homesweethome2u: So, if you have questions.....pray in faith........and seek answers.
crockerssue_1: ft. worth area
angelique_halrequin_avatar: ok...
m_r_m_i_d_n_i_t_e: ARE YOU PEOPLE NUTS OR DOES IT JUST SEEM THAT WAY
angelique_halrequin_avatar: but...that's not what i asked
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s_h_a_r_o_n_33: no were nuts
angelique_halrequin_avatar: i only wish to know the teachings
m_r_m_i_d_n_i_t_e: THOUGHT SO
cyber_buttmunch: im nuts for god
angelique_halrequin_avatar: failing that, could someone at least explain the Christian faith to me
homesweethome2u: Well,,,,,who exactly are you taking to angelique......cuz.......I'm sure everyone in here, has their own beliefs and are at different learning levels.
crockerssue_1: dfw u wanta talk
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s_h_a_r_o_n_33: i admit it i lost a few screws
angelique_halrequin_avatar: *sighs*
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s_h_a_r_o_n_33: can anyone else admit it??
angelique_halrequin_avatar: every religion is based on a set of teachings
mothermaye: READ THE BIBLE IT WILL TELL YOU THE TRUE,
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cyber_buttmunch: i can
cyber_buttmunch: lol
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crockerssue_1: i can shar
s_h_a_r_o_n_33: good least im not alone
crockerssue_1: lol
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angelique_halrequin_avatar: these teacchings are "guide lines," if you will, for how you should live your life
cyber_buttmunch: nope
crockerssue_1: hi beach gby
litl_david: were is my woman loves
homesweethome2u: We believe That Jesus Christ is the Son of God........that he came here, to atone for the sins of all mankind......That by him and through him are men saved,,,,,,through his love and grace. And that by following him......we may live with him forever.
s_h_a_r_o_n_33: we got 3 nuts..n i see 4>? lol
angelique_halrequin_avatar: ok...?
beach_mom9499: hello gby
homesweethome2u: That we should Love one another as he has loved us.
cyber_buttmunch: shar son to lol
angelique_halrequin_avatar: but, that is not his teachings...
homesweethome2u: Yes it is angelique.........
dg1642185: DFW area anyone? IM me
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angelique_halrequin_avatar: ok
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homesweethome2u: Seek knowlege even by study and faith.
crockerssue_1: dfw what do u need
litl_david: were is my woman lovesdreamangel
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homesweethome2u: Pray always.......To the Father.....in the name of Jesus Christ His son.
angelique_halrequin_avatar: his teachings are "we believe that jesus hrist is the son of god, that he came here to atone for the sins of mankind, that by him and through him are men saved"?
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s_h_a_r_o_n_33: son is walnut so he counts for 2
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litl_david: did all ya iggy me
homesweethome2u: That's right angelique.
angelique_halrequin_avatar: ...
crockerssue_1: no david
angelique_halrequin_avatar: there are no rules?
angelique_halrequin_avatar: you have no way to judge what is right and what is wrong?
homesweethome2u: Yes........ there are commandments.......Jesus said....If you love me.....Keep my commandments.
angelique_halrequin_avatar: he did not say anything in the form of philosophy?
homesweethome2u: Jesus Christ is the Judge.
angelique_halrequin_avatar: ...
angelique_halrequin_avatar: ok
angelique_halrequin_avatar: thank you
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cyber_buttmunch: shar lol
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ronironibattsion: hola people

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angelique_halrequin_avatar: hello
angelique_halrequin_avatar: may i ask a few questions?
pastor_tdm: whats being discussed
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pastor_tdm: hey angelique
foundone56: sure, angeline
pastor_tdm: ok what are the questions
angelique_halrequin_avatar: alright
angelique_halrequin_avatar: can someone here tell me the teachings of Christianity?
pastor_tdm: thats a long answer
foundone56: take it away, tdm
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foundone56: simply put, if we believe that Jesus paid for our sins, and we love him, we go to heaven
angelique_halrequin_avatar: paraphrase, if you need to
angelique_halrequin_avatar: ok
foundone56: that is very simpligied
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pastor_tdm: yes
pastor_tdm: simply put
angelique_halrequin_avatar: ....
angelique_halrequin_avatar: how do you judge what is right and what is wrong?
pastor_tdm: look to the Word
foundone56: simply put again.....
foundone56: use your conscious
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rebelpoetinarms: lol overloaded my bandwidth
foundone56: and study God's word
kellygirl7662000: hi all
angelique_halrequin_avatar: ok...
pastor_tdm: hey kelly
foundone56: hi kelly
kellygirl7662000: just beleive angel
angelique_halrequin_avatar: if i kill someone, but i did it because i felt it needed to be done, then...it wouldn't be wrong?
kellygirl7662000: so..how are ya all today?
rebelpoetinarms: hello kelly
foundone56: yes, it would
kellygirl7662000: yeah id say that would be pretty wrong
kellygirl7662000: lol
pastor_tdm: er,not quite angel
angelique_halrequin_avatar: but, you said to use my conciousness
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foundone56: and God's word
kellygirl7662000: i dont think it's very nice to kill someone though angel
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kellygirl7662000: lol
angelique_halrequin_avatar: if i kill someone, and in my mind it was right...then..aocording to what you said, it would be right
rebelpoetinarms: conscience is not the same as consciousness
foundone56: realizing that we aren't pefect
afriendusa444: Thou shaallt not KILL
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angelique_halrequin_avatar: ok...
kellygirl7662000: yeah but you know that it is wrong to kill people though angel
angelique_halrequin_avatar: let's start from the top
afriendusa444: Thou shalt NOT KILL
angelique_halrequin_avatar: hello
samantha_45674: hi there room
angelique_halrequin_avatar: may i ask a few questions?
afriendusa444: reap whay you sow
kellygirl7662000: lol
kellygirl7662000: hi angel..go ahead
dusty_ol_lutheran2756: hi sam
afriendusa444: please do
kellygirl7662000: hi sam
rebelpoetinarms: Thou shalt not MURDER actually
foundone56: sure, angeline
angelique_halrequin_avatar: can someone here tell me the Teachings of christe
samantha_45674: surely under certain circumstances it is acceptable to kill people?
kellygirl7662000: kill,murder,same difference
foundone56: ah, much simpler question
samantha_45674: in a "just war" for instance?
foundone56: love your neighbor as yourself
afriendusa444: rebel ,,It says in the 10 Commandments......Thou shalt not kill
angelique_halrequin_avatar: what defines a "just war"?
dusty_ol_lutheran2756: not really kell
afriendusa444: ty Godds word
kellygirl7662000: kill and murder are two diff things?
rebelpoetinarms: kelly you think so.....but....not
kellygirl7662000: hmm..interesting
samantha_45674: angel, would you have allowed hitler to have his way?
afriendusa444: kill and murder is not the same
rebelpoetinarms: here come the pharisees
rebelpoetinarms: worrying avbout the letters
angelique_halrequin_avatar: in his eyes what he was doing was right
angelique_halrequin_avatar: through my eyes, however, it was wrong
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afriendusa444: God is loving
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kellygirl7662000: well youre right angel
richgirl422: i have a question that applies to this
dusty_ol_lutheran2756: hi paul
samantha_45674: angel, indeed, I agree, but is that a justification for doing nothing and allowing him to take over the world?
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afriendusa444: but Man sees it wrong because they have NO understanding of God
paulsson2: hey there dusty
afriendusa444: they are weak in Faith
angelique_halrequin_avatar: oh well
angelique_halrequin_avatar: back to my original question
angelique_halrequin_avatar: what are the teachings of christe?
afriendusa444: Jesus is Lord
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samantha_45674: angel, do you not agree that if a maniac was killing one of your children, it would be perfectly justifiable to kill that maniac?
afriendusa444: risen from the Dead He is Lord
foundone56: I told you those, angeline....
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foundone56: love your neighbor as yourself
angelique_halrequin_avatar: is that it?
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foundone56: basically
angelique_halrequin_avatar: wow...
afriendusa444: love youie enemies
angelique_halrequin_avatar: i always thought it would more complicated
samantha_45674: What parent would not kill someone who was harming one of their children?
richgirl422: and above all love God
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afriendusa444: Love all Mankind
kellygirl7662000: believe in God and dont do anything bad
foundone56: well, simple doesn't mean easy
angelique_halrequin_avatar: ...so...if i hate myself...is it ok to hate my neighbor
kellygirl7662000: lol
afriendusa444: thru the Lord
angelique_halrequin_avatar: cos, i really don't like those people
kellygirl7662000: lol
kellygirl7662000: move
afriendusa444: be not afraid of Man
afriendusa444: Man is weak
foundone56: ry to hate what they do, and not them
richgirl422: no, ur supposed to love yourself as well
samantha_45674: kelly, belief in god is NOT an indication that one does not do anything "bad", lol
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vintage1971toad: hey all
richgirl422: it may be hard
kellygirl7662000: lol
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richgirl422: at times
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dusty_ol_lutheran2756: hi toad
afriendusa444: Love makes the world go around
kellygirl7662000: yeah well thats why i said to do BOTH of those things
kellygirl7662000:
vintage1971toad: hi dust
foundone56: hate the sin, love the sinner...... and thats hard
samantha_45674: There are plenty of people who believe in god who are utterly depraved by "our standards"
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afriendusa444: found amen
afriendusa444: it is hard
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vintage1971toad: our standards?...jesus standards
vintage1971toad:
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darrell_duke02: whatss upp
afriendusa444: but do it becuase God ask us too
kellygirl7662000: hi darrell
angelique_halrequin_avatar: are there rules in your religion?
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darrell_duke02: hi
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afriendusa444: be like Jesus
darrell_duke02: how u
samantha_45674: T, by our standards I mean "western standards " I suppose
dusty_ol_lutheran2756: hi bob
foundone56: the one i told you about is our main rule
kellygirl7662000: good and you?
therightreverendbob: hiya, dusty
angelique_halrequin_avatar: ...ok
darrell_duke02: great
afriendusa444: God has a plan for all to come to repentence amen
vintage1971toad: lol....ok...
kellygirl7662000: thats good
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therightreverendbob: 'lo, pauls
angelique_halrequin_avatar: so...as long as i love everyone...i'll get into heaven?
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darrell_duke02: im just bored
afriendusa444: aangel NOWAY
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vintage1971toad: by cristian standards i mean by jesus standards
angelique_halrequin_avatar: well, that's what he said
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angelique_halrequin_avatar: "love thy neighbor"
kellygirl7662000: love jesus and believe
therightreverendbob: afriend, why do humans need to repent of their humanity?
vintage1971toad: christian
foundone56: try to love everyone, when you slip, ask God for forgiveness, then yes, you will
darrell_duke02: amen
afriendusa444: no God didnt angel
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angelique_halrequin_avatar: ok...
samantha_45674: angel, if you love everyone with the express purpose of gaining entry into heaven surely your love is motivated by selfish considerations and as such is not "real" love?
angelique_halrequin_avatar: so...if i smack someone...and I say "Jesus, I’m sorry that I was unkind to that person" everything is ok?
dusty_ol_lutheran2756: there sinners bob
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afriendusa444: Angel do you know how to enter the Kingdom of Heaven????????????????????
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therightreverendbob: I disagree, dusty
kellygirl7662000: you have to mean it angel
angelique_halrequin_avatar: ok
vintage1971toad: -¿¿¿¿
foundone56: that depends
angelique_halrequin_avatar: so, obviously, there is more to this
kellygirl7662000: and he knows if you dont mean it
kellygirl7662000: lol
lupacayne: the smacking... or the asking?
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afriendusa444: angel do you know how to enter the Kingdiom of Heaven ???????????
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xabeillex: hello
dusty_ol_lutheran2756: you disagree with the bible
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foundone56: hi xab
samantha_45674: found, in my opinion, if you do anything with personal gain in mind then your motivation is selfish and ignoble and not in the least laudable
kellygirl7662000: hi x
ishamspopo: salut
xabeillex: hello foundo
xabeillex: hello kelly
kellygirl7662000:
xabeillex: salut isham
lupacayne: damn straight sam
therightreverendbob: oh, well, dusty ... there are many ways of interpreting the stories
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ishamspopo: hello
xabeillex: how is everyone?
angelique_halrequin_avatar: ok
kellygirl7662000: hi
ishamspopoo: hello
dusty_ol_lutheran2756: << thinks not
kellygirl7662000: good x and you?
xabeillex: i am good too thank you
angelique_halrequin_avatar: here's a hypothetical example
angelique_halrequin_avatar: say i kill someone
therightreverendbob: mostly those stories have traditionally been interpreted through a pre-modern world view
foundone56: sam, you and I talked yesterday, you already told me you reject everything about God, so I have nothing else to say to you
afriendusa444: angel do you know how to enter the Kingdom of Heaven???????????????????
ishamspopoo: hi
angelique_halrequin_avatar: cold blooded murder
samantha_45674: found, ok fine, lol
ishamspopo: hello to da room
foundone56: ok, angeline
angelique_halrequin_avatar: no, afriend, that's what I’m trying to figure out
xabeillex: hi isham
dusty_ol_lutheran2756: #-o
richgirl422: bye, i g2g
kellygirl7662000: bye rich
foundone56: bye rich
afriendusa444: angel i can tell you how thru the word of God ok ,,,,,niot Man
angelique_halrequin_avatar: i brutally rape, murder, and disfigure 27 people
kellygirl7662000: who did you kill angel?
foundone56: go on, angeline
dusty_ol_lutheran2756: heard it all before
foundone56: ok
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therightreverendbob: afriend, the Bible was written by humans
angelique_halrequin_avatar: then i ask god for forgiveness...will i get into heaven?
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afriendusa444: theright you are very wrong sorry,,God dont lie
lupacayne: i doubt it angel
foundone56: if you're serious, and you do your best to do things right, yes
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afriendusa444: No angel
angelique_halrequin_avatar: ...
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therightreverendbob: the Bible is a collection of assorted writings wherein humans attempted to express their experience of the divine presence in their lives
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angelique_halrequin_avatar: ok, but....i killed, raped, and disfigured 27 people...
foundone56: afrienbd, yes, she will, if she is serious
angelique_halrequin_avatar: there is no punishment for that?
samantha_45674: The very fact that you are asking "how do i enter the kingdom of heaven" rather than "how can i help people as jesus did" shows your motivation for belief in god is purely selfish and not in the least noble or laudable
afriendusa444: angel if i give you the scrpiture will you read it please
kellygirl7662000: you have to TRULY be sorry and want forgiveness
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foundone56: if you repent, you are forgiven
afriendusa444: found no way
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foundone56: no charges
risingsun1984: hi everyone
afriendusa444: you dont go to heaven unless you are saved
foundone56: yes way
high_summit: Hello Room
angelique_halrequin_avatar: so...you're saying...nothing is wrong if you are sorry?
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risingsun1984: i have a question
foundone56: if she repents she is saved
kellygirl7662000: >sigh<
dusty_ol_lutheran2756: sinners have to justify them selves some how
angelique_halrequin_avatar: what is a sin?
ishamspopo: hello to all the christians
foundone56: no, a lot is wrong, and we are supposed to do what is right
afriendusa444: found many repent ,,but you have to be saved thru Faith and saved by Grace
high_summit: no you go to heaven if you are killed by your enemy
dusty_ol_lutheran2756: sounds good eh
risingsun1984: someone ask me a question if i was hetherist what does that mean
foundone56: but when we screw up, we ask forgiveness
therightreverendbob: dusty, another word for "sin" is alienation
samantha_45674: It AMAZES me that christians wallow in self righteousness and think that their belief is SO noble and praiseworthy, when in reality all that most of them are interested in is entering the kingdom of heaven.
lupacayne: because the realization of what you did .... being someone now able to understand the scope of what you did... you would not be able to handle the guilt... and kill yourself... thus... forbidding your entrance to heaven
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foundone56: if she repents, seriously, she is saved
dusty_ol_lutheran2756: and?
therightreverendbob: to be right with one another is to be right with God; which is reconciliation
afriendusa444: found a nonbeliever sins are not forgiven if they arent Saved by the Blood of Jesus
risingsun1984: what does hetherist mean
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lupacayne: i agree sam
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dusty_ol_lutheran2756: oh
the_lords_worker: hellow every one
therightreverendbob: and there is nothing alienating about being human in and of itself
lupacayne: nicely put
foundone56: if she repents, she is a believer...... duh
angelique_halrequin_avatar: ok...thanks
samantha_45674: thank you lup
angelique_halrequin_avatar: that's all i needed to know

I am now a little sad...
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