Ginny, and a little thoughts on book 7

Jul 25, 2005 09:09

So now Ginny= pretty much the pre-HBP Draco with female bits and without reasonable justifications for her biotchiness has become sort of a popular view. Well, I feel somewhat smug for having pointed that out in adela711's lj before I even finished the book ;-) Unlike the rest of the not!Ginny-fan!fandom though, I am not harboring a deep loathing for Ginny ( Read more... )

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malafede July 25 2005, 19:03:10 UTC
See, I was already laughing at Ginny while reading the book. She's the love robot, and JKR waxing poetic in her interview just set it. It's just not a character that I can take seriously, and while the bitchiness is somewhat Draco-like, it lacks the honesty of Draco as a character ( ... )

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_rp_zeal_ July 25 2005, 22:24:21 UTC
and while the bitchiness is somewhat Draco-like, it lacks the honesty of Draco as a character.

Ginny at her best is not even as good as Draco at his worst, that's all I'm saying *whistles*

Of course, Marietta is also more in the sphere of Hermione than Harry.

Yeah that's also why I think Marietta has a fairly good chance of getting involved in the next book, because we have yet to see the Hermione/Marietta conflict come to any resolution in HBP, and I just don't think JK meant for the 'sneak pimples' to be just what Marietta deserved. I have become more certain of Hermione having to own up her moral error in OOTP after what JK did with the vanishing cabinet incident. I am hoping to see a really mortified and sorry Hermione in the next book *rubs palms and cackles*

And hey I've forgotten about the other Weasleys' resentment toward Zacharias, thanks for reminding me, now Zach's future role has become even more definite :-)

The Good Slytherin would be a mind-boggling cop-out at this point, it doesn't bear to think about.There ( ... )

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malafede July 26 2005, 14:02:46 UTC
They even cried, "What happened to Nott, the *obvious* good Slytherin!" Unbelievable! But also very entertaining X-DDD

ahahahaahahahahahah. where, where?

I agree about redemption, as you know. Isn't needed, the word is abused by fandom anyway. I was trying to put myself in the mindset of those who demand it.

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_rp_zeal_ July 26 2005, 14:46:04 UTC
I believe it was HP-for-grown-up (snerk) and FAP, delightful folks really.

I was trying to put myself in the mindset of those who demand it.

Don't go to the dark side... Redemption in their eyes can very well be corruption in ours ;-P

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sistermagpie July 26 2005, 14:57:48 UTC
They even cried, "What happened to Nott, the *obvious* good Slytherin!" Unbelievable! But also very entertaining X-DDD

OMG, really? That's hilarious! Especially since Nott has actually been a canonically NOT good Slytherin. In canon he's shown whispering with Malfoy occasionally. Somehow fandom translates this into Nott actively avoiding Malfoy because he detests him. Um, yeah.

I seriously think JKR just has issues about her own personality or something. She's constantly telling us how bad her bad guys are, yet has much more success showing their good qualities than she does with the good guys. Ginny, sadly, is her trying to portray someone as nice. But all she can show is her insulting people and showing off--only it's less sympathetic than Malfoy because Malfoy has to deal with realistic reactions (people think he's rude and a show-off). When it comes down to it, though, it makes him easier to be completely sympathetic when he's down.

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go_back_chief July 26 2005, 15:02:53 UTC
They even cried, "What happened to Nott, the *obvious* good Slytherin!" Unbelievable! But also very entertaining X-DDD

Zeal? Link? (Come on you have to give us! :DDD)

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_rp_zeal_ July 26 2005, 15:16:06 UTC
_rp_zeal_ July 26 2005, 15:24:11 UTC
Ginny, sadly, is her trying to portray someone as nice.

I actually did find Ginny nice, warm and compassionate even, pre-OOTP. She seemed like a kind sister to Ron, stood up for Harry and Neville, though overall not a very interesting character but at least I can appreciate her to a certain degree. I would never understand why Rowling considers OOTP and HBP Ginny the improved version, never -__-;;;

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merrymelody July 26 2005, 19:16:38 UTC
She really is a completely different character.
For instance, the snarkery is doing GoF and Ginny's only reaction during the QWC is to be 'horror-struck' at an injury (which with such a rough game as Quidditch, you think she'd be used, since she was always such a fan *rolls eyes*) where HBP!Ginny describes a curse that rips people open as 'good'.

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sistermagpie July 29 2005, 01:15:52 UTC
Me too--pre-OotP I thought Ginny was perfectly nice and sweet, but she also seemed like a sister you'd want in your corner. She seemed more like a sister you, or Ron, could talk to about problems. Now she seems the opposite of that. The last person you'd share a vulnerability with.

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