Ginny, and a little thoughts on book 7
So now Ginny= pretty much the pre-HBP Draco with female bits and without reasonable justifications for her biotchiness has become sort of a popular view. Well, I feel somewhat smug for having pointed that out in adela711's lj before I even finished the book ;-) Unlike the rest of the not!Ginny-fan!fandom though, I am not harboring a deep loathing for Ginny
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I love your idea of Harry confronting his Other through the four Houses. I trust JKR more about these things than I trusted her once, and it certainly would be a nice progression from Marietta to Zacharias to Draco, from the least disliked to the most. Zacharias' solely Ginny-oriented presence in the books could indicate she'll have something to do with it, though, which I fear. This works also because the *Weasleys* mostly have showed dislike for Zacharias, Harry was going along as per usual. Or am I wrong? Of course, Marietta is also more in the sphere of Hermione than Harry. Although, she's Cho's best friend, and that ties her to Harry. Mmh.
The Good Slytherin would be a mind-boggling cop-out at this point, it doesn't bear to think about. Also, blood prejudice seems very ingrained and when not embraced at least accepted in the Slytherin society, so I am having troubles imagining the saintly Slytherin who comes along unprejudiced and redeems the House. The House is redeemed when the unpleasant character overcome their flaws.
Also your thought about non-Gryffindor...ness made me realise that most of the accusation of cowardy leveled at Draco probably come from fixating of bravery as that was the point of every story, and it isn't. Draco's story was not about bravery or lack thereof, it's pretty pointless to ask him prove himself as a Gryffindor when he isn't one.
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Ginny at her best is not even as good as Draco at his worst, that's all I'm saying *whistles*
Of course, Marietta is also more in the sphere of Hermione than Harry.
Yeah that's also why I think Marietta has a fairly good chance of getting involved in the next book, because we have yet to see the Hermione/Marietta conflict come to any resolution in HBP, and I just don't think JK meant for the 'sneak pimples' to be just what Marietta deserved. I have become more certain of Hermione having to own up her moral error in OOTP after what JK did with the vanishing cabinet incident. I am hoping to see a really mortified and sorry Hermione in the next book *rubs palms and cackles*
And hey I've forgotten about the other Weasleys' resentment toward Zacharias, thanks for reminding me, now Zach's future role has become even more definite :-)
The Good Slytherin would be a mind-boggling cop-out at this point, it doesn't bear to think about.
There actually are people still waiting for the "Good Slytherin" to descend from heaven and lead the strayed sheep of Slytherin to the side of Gryffindorlight. They even cried, "What happened to Nott, the *obvious* good Slytherin!" Unbelievable! But also very entertaining X-DDD
The House is redeemed when the unpleasant character overcome their flaws.
Awww, I am not sure redemption is needed, but yeah :D Harry & co would have to redeem themselves in the eyes of these flawed representative of non-Gryff houses too :-)
it's pretty pointless to ask him prove himself as a Gryffindor when he isn't one.
*cough*Typical Christian*cough*American*cough*mentality*cough* ? OK I shalln't stoop to stereotyping. Bad RP bad!
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ahahahaahahahahahah. where, where?
I agree about redemption, as you know. Isn't needed, the word is abused by fandom anyway. I was trying to put myself in the mindset of those who demand it.
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I was trying to put myself in the mindset of those who demand it.
Don't go to the dark side... Redemption in their eyes can very well be corruption in ours ;-P
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OMG, really? That's hilarious! Especially since Nott has actually been a canonically NOT good Slytherin. In canon he's shown whispering with Malfoy occasionally. Somehow fandom translates this into Nott actively avoiding Malfoy because he detests him. Um, yeah.
I seriously think JKR just has issues about her own personality or something. She's constantly telling us how bad her bad guys are, yet has much more success showing their good qualities than she does with the good guys. Ginny, sadly, is her trying to portray someone as nice. But all she can show is her insulting people and showing off--only it's less sympathetic than Malfoy because Malfoy has to deal with realistic reactions (people think he's rude and a show-off). When it comes down to it, though, it makes him easier to be completely sympathetic when he's down.
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Zeal? Link? (Come on you have to give us! :DDD)
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Scroll down to the last paragraph :D
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I actually did find Ginny nice, warm and compassionate even, pre-OOTP. She seemed like a kind sister to Ron, stood up for Harry and Neville, though overall not a very interesting character but at least I can appreciate her to a certain degree. I would never understand why Rowling considers OOTP and HBP Ginny the improved version, never -__-;;;
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For instance, the snarkery is doing GoF and Ginny's only reaction during the QWC is to be 'horror-struck' at an injury (which with such a rough game as Quidditch, you think she'd be used, since she was always such a fan *rolls eyes*) where HBP!Ginny describes a curse that rips people open as 'good'.
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