This just in!

[_jems_]

Joss himself has proclaimed it (and thus it must be so): Despite what we've all believed lo these many months Veronica Mars isn't Buffy (bemoans loss of Duncan=Angel theory), it's Harry Potter! So therefore I must ask my flist to hook me up with a link to the character by character comparison with the Potterverse. C'mon, it's been a day! Someone

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[_jems_]

Oh my god, you're brilliant!

Duncan=aunt Petunia? Hey, she's Lily's sibling and she does seem to be the type to "stand idly by".

[_jems_]

That is a truly scary image. And in case you can't see why, I'm picturing uncle Vernon in Meg's Pretty in Pink dress right now. *shudder*

[danceswithwords]

He's not doing his job, he's doing someone else's. That says a lot about what kind of man he is, that he'd go so far to keep his word.

It's funny, because I can see why the writers were careful to establish this, but it's a technicality that I have absolutely no interest in. It's a non-issue for me whether or not he broke his word, because while I think honor is terrific, I think that adhering to it too rigidly, to the point of refusing to act to avert a crisis, is dumb. So even if Lee had broken his word, I wouldn't have thought any less of him.

I get the feeling ("feeling" because I rarely see people pledging support for either side outright) that a lot of people are on Adama's side in the face-off between the military and the government, but I'm firmly in the Roslin camp.I don't want to see military rule, but I think both Adama and Roslin have at times made terrible mistakes, and at other times made good decisions. That's what I find so interesting about the whole situation. And if the government Roslin ends up leading tends

[_jems_]

I wouldn't care at all if he broke his word, but it says so much about his character that he cares that much. I think I'd actually find him more interesting if he had broken his word. Lee can be too honorable for his character's good (and my interest).

I think that Roslin and Adama are both too cocky for their own good, both convinced that they're right. My problem with it is that Adama has the possibility of just taking over by brute force (which he's done) while the president would have to rely on the will of the people (at least to an extent).

I did too, but I think it's entirely consistent with the way they've underestimated and misunderstood the dynamics of the civilian portions of the fleet.And that right there is probably Adama's biggest failing. He takes control not thinking about the will of the fleet, only about the safety of the fleet. I think he's very stuck in his pre-apocolyptic ways of thinking. I think he sees that his and the military's situation has changed, but I don't think he sees that everyone's situation has

[typicrobots]

And that she was "programmed" to fall in love with Helo.
I actually thought the point was that she wasn't supposed to fall in love. I'm sure the Cylons wanted her to feel something for him as part of the "we're not machines, we have emotions too" arguement, but never to the point that she would betray them. The point was for Helo to fall in love with her and for C!Boomer to play a role. The reason I love this ship is because C!Boomer went against her "programming" to be with Helo.

And what will the Chief say when he learns of her "infidelity"?Oh man, I can't wait for next week when all three of them are in a room together. I really don't like Chief, and I resented the fact that G!Boomer was so hung up on him. It was sweet and I understood it; I just didn't like it. And now that Chief has accepted that Boomer isn't a machine in the way that he kept telling himself that she was, here comes another one, all in love with Helo and carrying his baby. I can't wait for the awkwardness

[_jems_]

Oh, I must have missed that part. I thought Helo said "they" were supposed to fall in love?

As far as the Chief goes, I like him, but Boomer and Helo are totally my OTP there. I didn't know we'd see them all interact in the next episode, though, since they're jumping to Kobol, where the Astral Queen is, but not Galactica (along with Tyrol). I'll be very interested in any and all confrontations the fleet has with Caprica!Boomer, though. It's going to be awesome!

[typicrobots]

I thought Helo said "they" were supposed to fall in love?
I think they just said that love was missing from the equation, not necessarily mutual love. I guess that's what that statement would apply, love from both sides. But from S1, it's obvious that Sharon was not supposed to feel about Helo that way. When she reported back to Six and... that other dude after sleeping with Helo for the first time, they talk about how she's turning and becoming more like "them."

This is from wisteria_'s post about the podcast:
RM: "The Cylons believed that God is love, and without love, they could not reproduce... So they put Helo in a position to fall for Sharon in order for that to happen. The amazing thing is that Sharon fell for Helo, and she turned on her own people out of love. That's something the Cylons didn't anticipate... There is something called love, and it is stronger than science." (I'm paraphrasing in a big way.)Aw, man, I totally forgot they were jumping to Kobol. I thought on the previews for next week, Boomer and Helo were on Galactica,

[_jems_]

Well, they could still be on Galactica. I think Adama will have to cave and join the rest of the fleet at Kobol, because he won't be willing to leave so many people unprotected, he's just not built that way. And the only thing that would prevent him would be his pride and... Yeah, I just don't see him potentially sacrificing a third of the remaining human population for that.

[girlcontinuum]

I'm not ready to pick a side, yet. I would normally be against the military no matter what, but at the same time I can't see the Roslin side as democracy. She's getting blind worship. I understand she's reluctant to be put in that position, but between military dictatorship and blind religious worship I'm a little torn here.

Still, I couldn't help but laugh when Adama said "no one's this stupid". Oh, Adama. You should know better.

But I was disappointed that the new Cylon wasn't anyone we already knew, too. I'm still waiting for another Big Reveal.

[_jems_]

I will always be on the side of the president because a military rule will always be autocratic because there are no checks and balances. Even if the president turns out to be deluded and deranged she still has constituents who will be able and allowed to call her on it, going so far as to have a recall election if necessary.

And while I believe in the BSG mythology, I'm not so sure the president does. I think she's clinging to the hope that she is playing a part in the prophecy, but I don't think she's completely sold on the religious aspects.

Yes, Adama really should have known better, and I think that's symptomatic of the problem I have with him being sole ruler (for lack of a better word) - he doesn't see things like that because he simply doesn't account for people viewing things differently from himself.

I doubt we'll get a new reveal this season - season 1 didn't reveal a single new Cylon, after all - but if we do it'll be the last few seconds of the finale and it'll be someone we know - guaranteed.

[muzakgurrl]

I'm in Roslin's camp, too. What I love about the prophecy thing is that it seems less "a God coming down from the heavens to save us!" and more historical and, I don't know, archaeological in way. It reminds me of ancient civilizations on Earth and such, so I think it's very cool and hope it comes to pass. (Plus the whole democracy over military thing. Like you said, though, it isn't all about that, especially since I really do love Adama.)

Also, I'm so with you on having Starbuck issues. They didn't really come to the forefront until last nights episode. Though I don't know if I'm having Mary-Sue issues (possibly? I'm not good at determining the type of issues I have. *g*).

[_jems_]

Yeah, I like the cyclical aspect of the prophecy, like we don't learn from our past mistakes and this happens again and again because people don't bother to learn their history.

I like Starbuck, and I don't think she's a wasted character, but I really wish I didn't feel manipulated by the writers when watching her.