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Oct 02, 2004 19:53

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baked_ziti October 5 2004, 19:46:42 UTC
I appreciated how eloquent your opinions were, although I really, really disagreed with you on the abortion thing. And your quote ("Blacks didn't choose slavery, Jews didn't choose genocide, babies don't choose abortion") pissed me the Hell off. I'm both black and Jewish, and aside from really not wanting to endorse you in any way I hardly think slavery/genocide and abortion are comparable. While slavery and the Holocaust were borne of the belief that one race was superior to the other in some way (plus a lot of other stuff), an abortion isn't something sane a sane woman would choose to have out of malice, but out of the belief she was doing the right thing for herself and/or her baby -- and while you certainly have the right to believe that abortion is wrong, how can you have the right to decide that for anyone else? Being pro-choice is very different from being pro-abortion.

Out of curiousity, do you have a double-standard? Like, if the pregnancy is endangering the mother's life, is an abortion okay? 'Cause the first time my mother got pregnant the egg took in her fallopian tube (there's a specific medical term for that -- Fallopial pregnancy? I'll look that up later) and she had to have an abortion because that kind of pregnancy is extremely dangerous. Technically, that could have been me, but it wasn't, and my mother doesn't feel she did anything wrong. When it comes to choosing between a mother and her baby, who is more important? The one with a beating heart and the power for sentient thought, or the thing that's so underdeveloped it doesn't even have a heart or a brain yet?

That's all my opinions, though I'd be interested to hear what you think in response. I'm trying to be rational, though -- you seem like an intelligent person, and even though I didn't agree with you, you were articulate and, like, not a waste of space. 7.

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twirlandswirl October 5 2004, 19:55:30 UTC
I don't want to start a debate here, just to clarify that the quote you referred to is from the belief that a baby IS a person in a group that IS being persecuted. That is, isn't being considered because they thing it is less- simply a fetus. I believe it's a person. That's the point of it, but if you don't believe it's a person, then yeah, you wouldn't like it.

As for a double standard- I am against abortion for ANY reason, including life of the mother, as terrible as that sounds, everything happens for a reason, you know? However. A fallopian pregnancy is different because there is zero chance of survival of the baby. Eventually, it will die because it can't get the nutrients it needs inside the tubes, and rot, killing the mother as well. In THAT case, it IS different, because the baby does not develop.

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triplemerde October 17 2004, 14:56:32 UTC
So if you were pregnant and had two choices, a) have an abortion, stay alive, get pregnant again or b) have them save the baby but die yourself, you would honestly give up your life? Think before you answer.

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twirlandswirl October 17 2004, 17:11:03 UTC
I would chose B, honestly. I truly believe everything happens for a reason, and if I have to die for the child to live, that's how it was meant to be.

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