How To Fight Back Against Anti-Gay Bigotry-For Eternity

Aug 02, 2008 02:15

Orson Scott Card has dashed off yet another bigoted screen against gay marriage, the sheer idiocy of which has been thoroughly derided elsewhere (zarq links to several rejoinders). What strikes me as particularly nonsensical, in light of his contributions to literature, is Card's heavy reliance on reproductive biology to bolster his argument. Hang on ( Read more... )

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6_bleen_7 August 3 2008, 04:14:08 UTC
Exactly. I've known many gay couples. Hell, I went to Oberlin, where the Gay & Lesbian Union was the strongest student organization on campus. And in my experiences gay couples are no different from regular folks. In fact, gay unions seem to be more stable than heterosexual ones, perhaps because mutual comfort in the face of societal disapproval tends to strengthen the emotional bond.

I didn't know it was illegal to pray in front of an abortion clinic. I believe there are laws against physically assaulting someone on their way into an abortion clinic; if anyone has been arrested merely for praying, I would guess that the person had been a member of a crowd, some of whom were attaching patients or staff.

Most of the people on the list aren't Mormons. But the Church is infamous for baptizing by proxy non-Mormons who are deceased (including thousands of Holocaust victims), against their surviving relatives' express wishes (the Wikipedia article has a section on that, a ways down). I picked Malcolm X because I couldn't recall the name of the most famous Black Panther. I don't have anything particular against Malcolm X (or Richard Simmons, for that matter), but he seemed a fitting reward for Jesse Helms's "good works" on this planet.

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6_bleen_7 August 3 2008, 23:55:15 UTC
Interesting-I didn't know that. I was a kid when Church President Spencer W. Kimball had his famous "revelation" that allowed non-white males into the priesthood. If it took God 160 years to come around on that issue, you can imagine how long it will take him to let women in. (Yet the Church grudgingly allows women to go on missions.)

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chillyrodent August 3 2008, 18:28:02 UTC
Some of these pairings (especially of rabids to "innocent" mates) reminds me of that old joke - "don't step on a duck!"

They stepped on a duck.

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6_bleen_7 August 3 2008, 23:52:58 UTC
Sorry, I don't quite get it. It sounds funny but I'm not sure why

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chillyrodent August 4 2008, 00:53:57 UTC
The gist of it is that heaven is loaded with ducks, and the penalty for stepping on one is to be chained in eternity with the ugliest mate in heaven. Our protagonist is then paired with a beautiful woman, who ... had stepped on a duck.

Uh, yeah. High hat.

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6_bleen_7 August 4 2008, 01:28:30 UTC
Ah, I see, heh-heh. I've heard variations on that theme, but never involving ducks. Yes, everyone in those example marriages is likely to feel they're being punished for something.

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