SAIYUKI

Nov 15, 2009 10:23



SAIYUKI

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This entry covers all versions and variations of Saiyuki, both manga and anime, including Gensomaden, Gaiden, Reload, Reload Gunlock, Requiem, Burial, Ibun, and the upcoming Blast.

Warning: the following entry may contain strong coarse language, explicit sex and some disturbing concepts unsuitable for ( Read more... )

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Youkai!Hakkai/Gojyo lawless523 November 15 2009, 15:33:01 UTC
His dick twitched in anticipation as he watched Hakkai carefully remove his limiters and safely stow them away; as fingernails turned into claws, ears became pointy, and vines wended their way across Hakkai's body, Gojyo devoutly hoped and prayed to gods he didn't believe in that his friend wouldn't tear him to shreds before they finished.

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THIS. the_rotten1 November 16 2009, 05:20:00 UTC
Okay, this was the one I meant to comment on. Poor Gojyo! You know he's going to enjoy it though.

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Re: THIS. lawless523 November 16 2009, 05:45:58 UTC
If he weren't, you'd think he wouldn't have let Hakkai take the limiters off. Or maybe he's just an idiot, as a certain blond priest always says.

P.S. That other sentence was pretty awesome too. Oral sex (at least I think that's what that's about, not kissing) as a silencing method.

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Re: THIS. the_rotten1 November 16 2009, 05:58:24 UTC
If Gojyo didn't want them off I'm sure he would have at least tried to stop Hakkai from removing them, whether he was actually successful or not...

I've always secretly fantasized about Sanzo commanding Gojyo to go down on him. Either with or without holding the gun to the kappa's head.

With the gun is better.

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Re: THIS. lawless523 November 16 2009, 06:05:19 UTC
I don't think Gojyo would need any incentive! Though the problem would be that he'd want some reciprocation.

Actually thinking about the other sentence has started a plot bunny off in my brain. A plot bunny on crack, that is.

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the_rotten1 November 16 2009, 06:08:03 UTC
Gojyo doesn't need the incentive, but I think Sanzo might need the excuse.

A plot bunny on crack, that is.

Aren't those the best kind?

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lawless523 November 17 2009, 02:22:12 UTC
Now that I'm writing it, the plot bunny doesn't seem so crack-ish. Then again, I haven't gotten to the so-called good part yet. I'm setting the scene with a flashback that estblishes that Sanzo isn't completely asexual.

I'll have to see how it goes once I get there. I dislike having Sanzo use the gun as a threat because that veers a little too close to corecion for me, but maybe he can have drawn it as a threat before sex gets introduced to the mix and be still holding it when sex comes up (as a topic, that is).

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the_rotten1 November 17 2009, 05:36:40 UTC
Hm... sounds interesting.

For the particular plot I had in mind, the point was to veer a little too close to coercion, and then veer back again. Sort of going back and forth until a balance is found. But, it'd be a lot easier to understand if I just wrote it out. The idea doesn't lend it's self to description well.

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lawless523 November 17 2009, 05:44:52 UTC
I just have a real distaste for the plot element, especially with Sanzo. He can easily come across as heavy-handed to begin with, and I want to try to show the more compassionate and humane side that he buries underneath his outer shell. Otherwise, for me, there's no point in writing about him (other than silly, humorous, cracky things) if I can't sneak in some subtle indications of his humanity.

I was just reading about the various listings of precepts for Buddhist monks, including the sixteen precepts adhered to by Zen Buddhists, and depending on how you interpret them, Sanzo comes up short on quite a few of them. Interestingly enough, the "do not kill" aspect of it is one of the more equivocal ones; some traditions allow self-defense and defense of others.

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the_rotten1 November 17 2009, 06:41:41 UTC
I wasn't planning on leaving his compassionate side out. I don't like it when people focus only on his forceful side, either. However, I think his underlying insecurity is as much a part of humanity as his caring side is.

Well, it is hard to explain, but... I hadn't planned on taking it to the point where it seemed like non-con, or even dub-con for that matter.

That's interesting. I thought that most Buddhists were pretty strict on the 'do not kill' one. But I suppose it depends on the sect, doesn't it? I had always assumed that Sanzo was Zen for some reason. I'm not sure whether I saw it in canon or if it was fanon that I read somewhere.

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lawless523 November 17 2009, 07:13:34 UTC
Muichimotsu is clearly Zen (it's a real Zen teaching from the 9th century), so Koumyou was Zen, meaning Sanzo is Zen, since he's following in his master's footsteps. Though I can't think of many less Zen in the sense of at peace with himself. And there have been warrior-monks, whereas in Western tradition monks were non-combatants ( ... )

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the_rotten1 November 17 2009, 09:14:11 UTC
It's strange how little any of the Saiyuki stories have to do with the actual historical figure. After all, he was from the 5th century. At least it is true that Zen originated in China, even if the canon has a lot of mixed traditions ( ... )

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lawless523 November 17 2009, 13:26:21 UTC
I should probably stop spamming 1sentencepr0n with this. I'll send you a PM.

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Re: Youkai!Hakkai/Gojyo jinxaire November 16 2009, 05:48:04 UTC
Well, as long as Hakkai doesn't tear him into shreds that he can't repair. ;)

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