Tangle 8/?
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CHAPTER EIGHT
( Ferus isn't quite an alpha-male, and Ryn talks dirty to Anakin ... )
CHAPTER EIGHT
( Ferus isn't quite an alpha-male, and Ryn talks dirty to Anakin ... )
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Anakin and Ferus trying to compete, ha ha! That is so funny! Yeah, there was no love lost between them in canon. Two hot guys fighting for the honor of the lady's favor!
(Okay, what did Ryn whisper in Ani's ear?)
This scene reminds me of Scarlett O'hara surrounded by her admirers trying to win her over!
And, grrrr, this is what self described sue-hunters can't stand, their beloved canon male characters showing attention to a female OC. Some jealousy there, do you think? I mean, it's not meaningful literary critique there, it's get yer mits offa my squee. I'm going over a piece I was thinking of posting, and, oh, dear, one canon male is thinking of my OC, oh, the hair, oh, the eyes... and I was like, fuck it. If they don't like it, they can back button.
So eager to please, so easily wounded.
So true. You've got a real feel for dear Ani.
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Those two amuse me when they're together. It's so juvenile and yet so much like what grown men do! (Forget the Feminine Mystique, it's men who are a mystery!)
I've never read Gone With the Wind, so I can't say. I will say that the scene was supposed to be sort of ridiculous. I mean, we're not supposed to think that Ryn is worth all this attention, but rather that Anakin and Ferus are being absurd. To my mind, this is what makes it different from a true Mary Sue: in a Mary Sue, presumably this female OC would deserve all the adulation. With Ryn, she's a decent person and attractive enough that boys will in fact make themselves stupid over her ... but to anyone who isn't a hormonally charged adolescent male, it's all clearly over-the-top. I'm not sure whether it came across that well to readers, but in this scene we are meant to roll our eyes at Anakin and Ferus's rivalry, and snigger at Ryn's predicament as their most recent bone of contention ( ... )
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In the Gone with the Wind movie there's one scene with Scarlett outside taking lemonade on daddy's plantation and she literally has six guys vying for her attention and she was playing like a fiddle.
I saw it as two adolescent boys. (I've seen grown men act like that... not to pimp myself, but it was over me...logic being that it's a guy thing.)
There is a lot of pro-Mary Sue stuff on the metafandom lists. For those exact reasons. Problem is that most people don't pay attention to it, or take it seriously, and continue to have their pointless fun by bashing sues.
Some people say that calling your OC a Mary Sue is not a bad thing. Sort of owning it, I suppose.
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I'd totally like to do that. I don't think Ryn enjoys it as much.
*giggle* Fun times.
I have to admit, I think it's absurd to venerate self-indulgently bad writing as some sort of political statement. And my opinion of the academic was that he was stretching way farther on that limb than was wise. But then, academics frequently do. Some of what's out there shouldn't be taken seriously. And a lot of academics shouldn't take themselves so seriously. Especially if they are men writing about the feminist nature of a Mary Sue. You'd need some serious ethnography to make that credible.
Well, I definitely didn't get the feeling that gizzi1213 meant for it to sound like a bad thing. And her guess wasn't unreasonable, given the information available. If I'm going to invite people to take guesses at the OC's identity, then I don't have a lot of room to complain about what they come up with! So in the context of that game, what she said made ( ... )
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