Bah, your review is great and it even has quotes. All I could manage was 'look back' and I stole that from your review because I was incoherent :)
I forgot to mention that I also liked the fact that Thornton was genuinely fond of Margaret's father and considered him a friend and vice versa. When Margaret gave him her father's Plato that was a really lovely gesture. You could also see that Thornton was genuinely saddened when he heard of Mr Hale's death.
Yes, I loved the relationship between Thornton and her father, as well. In fact, I suppose it's a wonder that Margaret persisted in her poor opinion of him even as long as she did considering that her father liked him so much.
And something I thought of when I went out is that Margaret was very careful to talk about the money she had on offer as a business proposal, and I wonder if that was partly because of the harsh words that were exchanged at his proposal, when she accused him of trying to possess her, or buy her, so perhaps she doesn't want him to think that she's trying to buy her way back into his affections by giving him money for the mill.
I absolutely agree with everything what you have said and between you and koalathebear i don't know what else to add :)
I liked very much relationship between Mr.Thornton and Margaret's father too, they like "opposites attract", Margaret's father is quite passive and soft, and Mr.Thornton all steel and strength.
There is also a wonderful scene in the book where Mr.Thornton is dreaming of Margaret , i miss this scene in the miniseries.
And i loved the whole "strike" theme as well, miner's strikes are a part of the history in UK, and story told in the N&S is very "prophetic" in a way.
I like Gaskell's ideas that masters should take part in the life of their employees, that they should make a bond and "share the bred". These ideas were ahead of their time in Victorian era, but it seems that now similar things are often applied - "team spirit" and "building a team", where worker care about results of their work;)
I am going to read the book as soon as I get a chance. Unfortunately that might not be for a while, as I have other books that I must get through first, but I'm quite looking forward to experiencing the original text.
I like Gaskell's ideas that masters should take part in the life of their employees, that they should make a bond and "share the bred".This is one of the reasons why I just adored the relationship that evolved between Thornton and Higgins - the two looked out for each other in the end. I think Thornton gained so much more understanding of and for his workers through their friendship, and one scene in the film that struck me, was when Higgins invited Thornton in to eat at the canteen, and everyone became very quiet when he walked in - but it meant that everyone was at the same level when they ate
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That's when she really starts to change, at least in the film - when all these deaths begin to crush her. When I rewatch episode 3, I wonder how she can bear it all - all the deaths, plus the fear for her brother's safety, and having to lie for him and shame herself before Thornton. A portion of those things would be difficult for the ordinary person to deal with, but all of them?
just wanted to let you know i finally watched north & south and linked to this in my post, since its the post that got me interested in it(even if i did first read it about a year after you made it)
I'm so glad you enjoyed it! And I'm thrilled if this post inspired you to watch the drama because it is still one of my all-time favorites. I doubt I'll ever get tired of watching its many memorable moments. :)
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I forgot to mention that I also liked the fact that Thornton was genuinely fond of Margaret's father and considered him a friend and vice versa. When Margaret gave him her father's Plato that was a really lovely gesture. You could also see that Thornton was genuinely saddened when he heard of Mr Hale's death.
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And something I thought of when I went out is that Margaret was very careful to talk about the money she had on offer as a business proposal, and I wonder if that was partly because of the harsh words that were exchanged at his proposal, when she accused him of trying to possess her, or buy her, so perhaps she doesn't want him to think that she's trying to buy her way back into his affections by giving him money for the mill.
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I absolutely agree with everything what you have said and between you and koalathebear i don't know what else to add :)
I liked very much relationship between Mr.Thornton and Margaret's father too, they like "opposites attract", Margaret's father is quite passive and soft, and Mr.Thornton all steel and strength.
There is also a wonderful scene in the book where Mr.Thornton is dreaming of Margaret , i miss this scene in the miniseries.
And i loved the whole "strike" theme as well, miner's strikes are a part of the history in UK, and story told in the N&S is very "prophetic" in a way.
I like Gaskell's ideas that masters should take part in the life of their employees, that they should make a bond and "share the bred". These ideas were ahead of their time in Victorian era, but it seems that now similar things are often applied - "team spirit" and "building a team", where worker care about results of their work;)
(Hee! I am ranting away!)
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I like Gaskell's ideas that masters should take part in the life of their employees, that they should make a bond and "share the bred".This is one of the reasons why I just adored the relationship that evolved between Thornton and Higgins - the two looked out for each other in the end. I think Thornton gained so much more understanding of and for his workers through their friendship, and one scene in the film that struck me, was when Higgins invited Thornton in to eat at the canteen, and everyone became very quiet when he walked in - but it meant that everyone was at the same level when they ate ( ... )
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And yes, I feel quite sorry for Margaret, everybody dying so suddenly.
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