A diet with lots of human food really isn't very good for dogs. Dogs need a different balance of nutrients than humans do, so even if individual ingredients are ok in some quantities, the balance that's healthy for you is probably not what's good for your dogs, gas or no. I hope that you'll consult your vet along with whatever advice you get here.
I think that most of the dog food found at wal mart and other grocery stores is TRASH.
Dogs live their entire lifetime on that.
My dogs have a vet appointment coming up. However, I don't expect him to really understand vegan dog nutrition just as my own doctor can tell me nothing about my own Vegan nutrition. Hell, Veterinarians recommend Science Diet of all things!
I'll stick to my guns on this one. Until my dogs suddenly start showing symptoms of illness, I'm not changing their diet to one of sick leftover animal parts that weren't fit for OUR consumption-- human refuse and trash- baked into shapes with artificial colors added to it to make it seem more appealing to the owners.
Now, do you have any actually helpful things to say about what may be causing my dogs gas? I'm guessing it is because they haven't had time to get used to their new diet, although it's already been a month.
I think you may have misunderstood what I was trying to say. I am certainly not advocating that you change to standard, mass-market dogfood (this is, after all, a vegan community, and I'm here to participate on that level). My point is simply that it sounds like you're feeding your dogs a dinner that is almost identical to what you eat for dinner, and that the balance of nutrients that is healthy for you might be less than optimal for a dog
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omfg >< poor dogs!!! do not ever feed your dog with that food!! Beans will give your dog gas as they can't digest them properly. Take ur dogs to a veterinarian if you want them to be healthy. These foods are very dangerous for your dog: -beans (gas) -potatoes -corn (gas) -onions and garlic (cause anemia) -grapes and raisins (very toxic, dangerous for kidneys) -tomato -milk (lactose-free milk products r ok) -mushrooms (extremely toxic, ur pet might die) and lots of other stuff i dont remember. Consult a vet asap. sorry for my english :)
although I had forgotten about mushrooms, I assure you, I don't hand them handfuls of it but I'll be sure to remove that from their diets. I have already looked up the lists of all that doggies may have a toxic reaction to, although I shall refresh myself again on the 10 or more websites I've already read on the subject (which INCLUDE established animal welfare sites)
and your recommendations aren't exactly correct. Tomato STEMS and potato STEMS are toxic to doggies not the vegetables/fruits themselves
I have never read anywhere that beans are toxic to dogs. Please direct me to where you found this information
I never give my dogs any food in great quantities other than rice. I take some of my leftovers and mix with the rice. And that is only for ONE MEAL. They eat the nutritionally balanced dog food otherwise.
I've also read that corn is rather indigetable to dogs. I don't feed them that either
Once at vet clinic I saw very sick dog. It has bloated stomach and the veterinarian was like "Oh I see, ur dog has too much gas, did u fed ur dog corn, beans, soy?" and the answer was "yes, i gave him green beans". And they put a tube into the dog's mouth to let the gas go :D potatoes r not very good for dogs, it cannot be digested -> stomach ache, ileus, etc. Just ask a veterinarian to be sure.
Dogs can't digest most vegetables (carrots, green beans, lettuce, potatoes or yams) whole or in large pieces. Potato peels and green potatoes are dangerous.
eek about the peels but it seems if I dice the potatoes and mash them (peel free) that they're good to go.
I'll be sure to bring a list of food items and ask the doc about it. No worries.
i feed my baby avoderm, and she's gassy, but it's not really all that stinky. just a few quiet toots a day, and they just smell like chickpeas. sounds normal to me.
did you do the gradual food change thing? where you gradually mix some new food in to the old food container until it's 3/4 new food and then once that's finished, they're ready for the new food exclusively.
oh, also spices generally aren't good for doggies. do you dole their portions out before putting the spices in?
also, leeks are in the onion family. so it's a no-no.
I just changed it half and half. I started with 3 parts old food, 1 part new food. then half old meat dog food and half new avoderm. Next week they go to straight avoderm.
They've been eating it for a little over a month so I feel they shouldn't have a reaction at this point (and I've caught them picking the avoderm OUT OF the old stuff and leaving the old stuff. They know where it's at!)
Onions aren't good for dogs, but I know of many preparations and foods that list garlic as an ingredient. Actually, I give my dog Earth Animals Herbal Internal Powder to prevent flea infestations, and that contains garlic. You should be careful about spices; I can't think that ginger is that good for dogs, but I could be wrong.
I had a dog who had cancer for two years, and her vet insisted no nightshades-tomatoes, potatoes, eggplant, or peppers. Green peppers set off a warning bell for me just because green peppers aren't really that good even for people: they're unripe peppers. But they are also of the nightshade family and as such contain nicotinic acid-the hallmark of the nightshade family
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Re: The Hollistic Dog bookfranklanguageOctober 21 2009, 13:02:59 UTC
Nutritional yeast is also called brewer's yeast; nutritional yeast and baking yeast are both yeast, but I don't know if brewer's yeast would be my first choice to bake with. (Remember: there are no dumb questions.)
Re: The Hollistic Dog bookamolibertasOctober 21 2009, 21:47:11 UTC
thanks. I didn't know the difference. I know I have some yeast that is for baking-- all I know about nutritional yeast is that it tastes like cheese and has high protein content hehe
I think they will adjust. My dogs eat V-Dog in the am and then in the pm I add various raw and/or cooked goodies. My older dog is no more gassy than she ever was (she has always been a big farter) and my puppy has been raised on this stuff. No problems. They are both very healthy.
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Dogs live their entire lifetime on that.
My dogs have a vet appointment coming up. However, I don't expect him to really understand vegan dog nutrition just as my own doctor can tell me nothing about my own Vegan nutrition. Hell, Veterinarians recommend Science Diet of all things!
I'll stick to my guns on this one. Until my dogs suddenly start showing symptoms of illness, I'm not changing their diet to one of sick leftover animal parts that weren't fit for OUR consumption-- human refuse and trash- baked into shapes with artificial colors added to it to make it seem more appealing to the owners.
Now, do you have any actually helpful things to say about what may be causing my dogs gas? I'm guessing it is because they haven't had time to get used to their new diet, although it's already been a month.
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omfg >< poor dogs!!!I think was the exact phrase ( ... )
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These foods are very dangerous for your dog:
-beans (gas)
-potatoes
-corn (gas)
-onions and garlic (cause anemia)
-grapes and raisins (very toxic, dangerous for kidneys)
-tomato
-milk (lactose-free milk products r ok)
-mushrooms (extremely toxic, ur pet might die)
and lots of other stuff i dont remember. Consult a vet asap.
sorry for my english :)
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and your recommendations aren't exactly correct. Tomato STEMS and potato STEMS are toxic to doggies not the vegetables/fruits themselves
I have never read anywhere that beans are toxic to dogs. Please direct me to where you found this information
I never give my dogs any food in great quantities other than rice. I take some of my leftovers and mix with the rice. And that is only for ONE MEAL. They eat the nutritionally balanced dog food otherwise.
I've also read that corn is rather indigetable to dogs. I don't feed them that either
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potatoes r not very good for dogs, it cannot be digested -> stomach ache, ileus, etc. Just ask a veterinarian to be sure.
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eek about the peels but it seems if I dice the potatoes and mash them (peel free) that they're good to go.
I'll be sure to bring a list of food items and ask the doc about it. No worries.
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did you do the gradual food change thing? where you gradually mix some new food in to the old food container until it's 3/4 new food and then once that's finished, they're ready for the new food exclusively.
oh, also spices generally aren't good for doggies. do you dole their portions out before putting the spices in?
also, leeks are in the onion family. so it's a no-no.
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They've been eating it for a little over a month so I feel they shouldn't have a reaction at this point (and I've caught them picking the avoderm OUT OF the old stuff and leaving the old stuff. They know where it's at!)
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I had a dog who had cancer for two years, and her vet insisted no nightshades-tomatoes, potatoes, eggplant, or peppers. Green peppers set off a warning bell for me just because green peppers aren't really that good even for people: they're unripe peppers. But they are also of the nightshade family and as such contain nicotinic acid-the hallmark of the nightshade family ( ... )
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This may sound like a dumb question: but is nutritional yeast the same as baking yeast? or what kind of yeast are you referring to?
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