My mom and I've been watching Gilmore Girls together. We started at the beginning, never having seen a single ep, and have got to the 5th disc of Season 2
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Good point about Rory. I would have liked her more if she'd had some particular literary fetishes. Instead she just seemed to be a fan of the GRE reading list, or something.
I've watched it all except for the last season, but I don't have a good sense of what happens in what season because I was watching it in syndication. Maybe it starts getting not so great in season 5-ish? Didn't the creator leave at some point? I'll be interested to see what others say.
she just seemed to be a fan of the GRE reading list
Exactly! Which, gotta say, makes her pretty hard to connect to! (In that way, at least.) Now I'm trying to think of a TV character who has interesting, very defined tastes. *ponders*
Thanks for commenting. Given how little time my mom and I have to watch these together we'll be lucky if we finish season 4 by the end of 2009, and perhaps we'll decide to stop there. Oh and speaking of watching shows at a glacial pace, I'm hoping I'll find time to carry on with SG-1 next summer... *facepalm*
I've never seen this show, but I'd like to point out that I was a bookish 16-year-old with wide-ranging tastes who thinks that everything's better in outer space... and I've never bought an Astronomy book in my life.
I think it bugs me because, as an obsessed reader, in my opinion one of the most interesting questions to ask someone is "what kind of books do you like?" For someone to answer "all works of literature" would be a great disappointment to me. (This is probably further evidence of my taking TV too seriously!)
Come to think of it, I actually took Astronomy in college. I remember now that I was fascinated by the topic... until I studied it and realized it was all math and chemistry!
Yeah, I agree that Rory is more of a non-reader's book geek. But I loved her anyway because it's so rare to have the hero of a show be academic and/or bookish at all. I was always just happy to see her walking down the street with her nose in a book.
I also really like it because it's sort of reflective of my own family. Er, well, we are nothing like the characters beyond the fact that I am an academic book geek (though with a distinct taste!), but the setup of a mom and daughter who are really close, and with Luke acting as a stepfatherly figure. Non-nuclear families is another thing that is under-represented in TV shows (at least the ones I watch).
I think for me it started going downhill in season 5, which is when I felt the characters weren't ringing true anymore. I won't tell you how as that would be spoilery. Season 6 was when it took a REALLY bad turn, imo. They maintained the quality of dialogue pretty consistently, it was just the character choices and such that got to me. I was, however, satisfied with the ending (
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Thanks for the tips on upcoming seasons; I will definitely keep all that in mind. I really like Rory too, and I love that she's a reader. I just feel like if she ever said "you know, I actually HATE The Bell Jar" [random example, I never read it] she would instantly shoot up in my estimation. But it's a nitpick, as I said.
It's nice that you empathized with the characters so much. I get along well with my mother but it was never that chummy confidential kind of relationship so I'm a little envious. I do really like the unconventional family dynamic on the show.
Though you know, I never thought of non-nuclear families as uncommon on TV. Am I ignorant, or is it just the shows I watch? Veronica and her dad, Chuck Bartowski and his sister, Chuck Charles and her aunts, Ned the Piemaker and his half-brothers, Adama and Roslin playing dad and mom to a Battlestar... these aren't the subject of the shows as in Gilmore Girls, but all are central relationships. I'm actually struggling to think of a show I watch or have watched in
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I think that's a more recent development. Definitely very few of the shows I watched all the way up through high school had non-nuclear families. Of course, I always tend to watch weird shows, so possibly some of the more mainstream stuff had more familial diversity. Like I said, it was different from the shows I watched, which is certainly not a representative slice.
I find a lot of things interesting and might buy/check out a book on nearly any topic, but as for liking or even reading them all... no. And it would have been so easy to fix too if they'd made her interested in nearly everything but liking certain things more.
I did read biographies at that age, but not many and most were the chatty sort not from the adult section (The Von Trapp bio, for instance, is hilarious).
I still think that L should have sported serious book injuries though. I mean, if you talk THAT FREAKING MUCH around a bookworm, you are going to get projectiles aimed at your head.
interested in nearly everything but liking certain things more.
Yes! That would be a good solution. It's not the willing-to-read-everything I disbelieve, it's the fact that she responds with identical enthusiasm to every canonical name.
L should have sported serious book injuries
Wow, hadn't thought of that and you are so right. If there's one thing that drives me up the wall it's when people don't recognize that a reading person is a busy person, not a person sitting ready to be talked to!
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I've watched it all except for the last season, but I don't have a good sense of what happens in what season because I was watching it in syndication. Maybe it starts getting not so great in season 5-ish? Didn't the creator leave at some point? I'll be interested to see what others say.
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Exactly! Which, gotta say, makes her pretty hard to connect to! (In that way, at least.) Now I'm trying to think of a TV character who has interesting, very defined tastes. *ponders*
Thanks for commenting. Given how little time my mom and I have to watch these together we'll be lucky if we finish season 4 by the end of 2009, and perhaps we'll decide to stop there. Oh and speaking of watching shows at a glacial pace, I'm hoping I'll find time to carry on with SG-1 next summer... *facepalm*
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Oh, and when they remake Gilmore Girls so it's about a close single-mother/daughter relationship in space, I'll make sure you know!
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Come to think of it, I actually took Astronomy in college. I remember now that I was fascinated by the topic... until I studied it and realized it was all math and chemistry!
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I also really like it because it's sort of reflective of my own family. Er, well, we are nothing like the characters beyond the fact that I am an academic book geek (though with a distinct taste!), but the setup of a mom and daughter who are really close, and with Luke acting as a stepfatherly figure. Non-nuclear families is another thing that is under-represented in TV shows (at least the ones I watch).
I think for me it started going downhill in season 5, which is when I felt the characters weren't ringing true anymore. I won't tell you how as that would be spoilery. Season 6 was when it took a REALLY bad turn, imo. They maintained the quality of dialogue pretty consistently, it was just the character choices and such that got to me. I was, however, satisfied with the ending ( ( ... )
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It's nice that you empathized with the characters so much. I get along well with my mother but it was never that chummy confidential kind of relationship so I'm a little envious. I do really like the unconventional family dynamic on the show.
Though you know, I never thought of non-nuclear families as uncommon on TV. Am I ignorant, or is it just the shows I watch? Veronica and her dad, Chuck Bartowski and his sister, Chuck Charles and her aunts, Ned the Piemaker and his half-brothers, Adama and Roslin playing dad and mom to a Battlestar... these aren't the subject of the shows as in Gilmore Girls, but all are central relationships. I'm actually struggling to think of a show I watch or have watched in ( ... )
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I did read biographies at that age, but not many and most were the chatty sort not from the adult section (The Von Trapp bio, for instance, is hilarious).
I still think that L should have sported serious book injuries though. I mean, if you talk THAT FREAKING MUCH around a bookworm, you are going to get projectiles aimed at your head.
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Yes! That would be a good solution. It's not the willing-to-read-everything I disbelieve, it's the fact that she responds with identical enthusiasm to every canonical name.
L should have sported serious book injuries
Wow, hadn't thought of that and you are so right. If there's one thing that drives me up the wall it's when people don't recognize that a reading person is a busy person, not a person sitting ready to be talked to!
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