Lexi the Savior

Oct 29, 2011 22:58

About Stefan's friendship with Lexi. Spoilers up to TVD 3x07. I'm having a bad day and lately I've discovered that reading too much into a teen vampire show is my best way to relax, so here I go.

Lexi the Savior )

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goldy_dollar October 29 2011, 21:20:36 UTC
I LIKE THIS META A LOT.

I got where Elena was coming from in 3x07 but she was just about the only character who I feel like I really got since Stefan and Lexi's interactions felt soooo far away from how I'd imagined it.

From now on Elena makes Stefan responsible for his actions. Klaus might've compelled Stefan to "switch it off" (let' not even start on this...), but he didn't compel him not to switch it back on. This is his choice entirely.

I'm just going to go ahead and adopt this as canon.

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upupa_epops October 29 2011, 21:53:17 UTC
I'm just going to go ahead and adopt this as canon.

That's exactly what I'm doing :D.

Stefan and Lexi's interactions were horrible, but the more I think about them, the more I feel they were in character. I watched the 2x15 flashbacks when I was writing this post, and OMG, Lexi is so bossy in them. The only difference is that before she wasn't shown while stabbing Stefan and stuff. It's creepy how consistant this story turns out to be, ugh.

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bellonablack October 29 2011, 21:44:03 UTC
I like this interpretation of the scene the most. :) It makes the most sense and I hope the show goes with it. I do feel it kind of has to at this point. Stefan talking about the bleak future...yeah.

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upupa_epops October 29 2011, 21:55:08 UTC
I'm glad we agree :D. I also think the show just has to go this way, but I'm trying not to be to optymistic in case they come up with something stupid ;).

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ever_neutral October 30 2011, 08:26:37 UTC
# when life is shit, write great meta

I never paid attention to one simple fact: she never really asked questions.

YES. I think you just articulated what bugged the hell out of me in that 2x15 ep. It all comes to a head at the end when she tells Damon that ~the hate will get the better of him~ and it's like… okay well if you're so sure of that, woman, why are you letting him walk out the door? Buh? It was this VERY WEIRD condescending vibe of choosing for other people that they did/didn't need to be saved, which I thought was just me being cranky, but no. Validated.

Stefan gives up his agency for safety; that's the thing many people do.

YES.

Lexi made her realize that Stefan finally needs to save himself.

I HOPE SO. It'd be a really great consistent theme then. But I'm still not 100% convinced the show doesn't want us to take away that Stefan should reform himself ~for Elena's sake. Didn't feel like that much of a breakthrough, tbh.

From now on Elena makes Stefan responsible for his actions. Klaus might've compelled Stefan to " ( ... )

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upupa_epops October 30 2011, 09:15:00 UTC
I think you just articulated what bugged the hell out of me in that 2x15 ep.

I didn't really notice any of this when I was first watching 2x15. Some time ago akzseinga told me she didn't understand why Stefan would change for Lexi; her idea was that it only made sense if Stefan'd changed for Damon. She planted doubt in my head, but I didn't know what to do with it, so I put it aside for the time being. And now it all makes sense. Lexi forced Stefan to change, and, therefore, she shaped his change. It explains some of the weirdness.

But I'm still not 100% convinced the show doesn't want us to take away that Stefan should reform himself ~for Elena's sake. Didn't feel like that much of a breakthrough, tbh.I really hope this is when Damon steps in. Of course it would be best if Stefan made an independent choice to redeem himself, but if the show insists on him having some sort of an external motivation, it had better be his brother, not his girl. Damon might push him in the right direction by reminding him that he was happier when he was a ( ... )

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softly_me October 31 2011, 13:28:00 UTC
Lexi is such a strange character to me because she's different every time she comes back. That is, our image of her is wholly changed each time. I remember being quite annoyed with the reveals in 2x15 because I didn't want her to be the person who 'saved' Stefan. I felt like it ruined their friendship because they could never really have an equal relationship if she's his savior. And now 3x07 shifted the whole dynamic to be darker than ever. Before, it seemed like Lexi saved him by taking walks with him and giving him inspirational speeches about love, the torture and conditioning was harsh and scary.

how is it different from Caroline's dad trying to "contition" her.

To me, the difference is that Caroline doesn't hurt anyone. Caroline lives her life and doesn't kill and should be able to keep doing that without the torture/conditioning. The Lexi-Stefan sequence was disturbing, but it is different because Stefan kills a lot of people. So, I can't really fault her for it. I love the current storyline if only because it is the ( ... )

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upupa_epops October 31 2011, 13:45:33 UTC
Awwwwwww, thank you so much :D.

She tells him that she wants him to "fight for it". Those are the same words Stefan spoke to her at the lakehouse in 2x15 ("I just want you to fight for it").

Thank you, I didn't notice the reference!

I wasn't bothered by Lexi in 2x15, and now I'm sort of double bothered. I've re-watched the Lexi flashbacks when I was writing this meta, and I was all: "Oh, girl, if you thought THIS was ok, you need to sort out your priorities...".

To me, the difference is that Caroline doesn't hurt anyone. Caroline lives her life and doesn't kill and should be able to keep doing that without the torture/conditioning. The Lexi-Stefan sequence was disturbing, but it is different because Stefan kills a lot of people.

I had an impression that Caroline's dad simply doesn't believe that she doesn't hurt people. That's why I made a comparison. Of course Lexi has better reasons, but her effort is just as brutal and just as futile as Bill's.

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