you're a dream for insomniacs

[tsuki_no_bara]

happy birthday sistabro, who is quite fun to hang out with at wincon. man vs food was in minneapolis last night and i thought of you. :D there was lutefisk and a giant wurst but sadly no cake.

dancing boys: *two-step*

also today is apparently international women's day. there's a googledoodle.

beadslut baked cookies for me! oatmeal raisin! because i wrote

Comments

[azewewish]

Wait, you haven't watched The Wire???? Dude, get on that. It is, no lie, THE best television show in the history of television shows.

[tsuki_no_bara]

i know, i know! i really like david simon, too. but i have a hard enough time catching up on missed episodes of shows i actually watch - the chances of me making it all the way thru the several seasons of the wire are slim. i need more hours in the day! more free time!

[azewewish]

I promise, it will be SO worth your time. And remember, it was an HBO show, so there aren't that many episodes - 60 in all, in fact. *g*

[wendy]

let this be a lesson to you, friends and neighbors - writing to other people's prompts sometimes nets you baked goods

True. Fact.

[tsuki_no_bara]

i honestly think this is the first time anyone ever baked me cookies for writing a fic, but i am SO not complaining. and it means i now have a weapon in the bribery arsenal. :D "write this fic and i'll send you cookies!"

[roguebitch]

All I write is fanfic, so taking it to my writing group is a curious balancing act. They keep wanting more detail, more characterization, or more motivation as to *why* the characters do what they do, and I agree up to a point. But then there's the problem of possibly insulting the intended audience by putting in details they *know* already.

And then there's the problem where I tend to write a lot like William Gibson (unintentionally, it's just my style) which has its own problems in terms of spareness of description, motivation, et al.

[tsuki_no_bara]

>>They keep wanting more detail, more characterization, or more motivation as to *why* the characters do what they do<<

that was our reaction too, because no one else had ever seen the show and we didn't know who anyone was. there was almost enough in the fic, tho, it just needed a couple extra details. but that's the risk you take when you submit fanfic for critique to people who don't know the canon. but i have no idea who the intended audience was - i don't know if the woman who wrote it is ever intending to post it online or anything.

[ephemera]

I think that sounds like an interesting conversation - although I think I formed most of my experience during an aborted attempt to file the serial numbers off something that made me realise that it was a good fanfic story, because these characters being these exact characters with this particular history was so integral to the thing!

The 'wanting more description of people' element is a bit weird for me, as I am more likely to notice "the author has tried to describe these characters in a really noticeable and kind of annoying way" than I am "the author has basically not told me what this character looks like at all" in original fic, so my mileage clearly varies from many others!

[tsuki_no_bara]

>>although I think I formed most of my experience during an aborted attempt to file the serial numbers off something that made me realise that it was a good fanfic story, because these characters being these exact characters with this particular history was so integral to the thing! <<

probably the best way to determine whether or not a fic is good as fanfic, rather than just being a good story. that's actually pretty cool.

there are now enough people in my writing group who are familiar with fanfic (either reading or writing or both) that we can actually have a conversation about fanfic vs original fic in terms of what works, what doesn't, etc, which is also pretty cool.