(hello randoms who have added me + CLIMATE CHANGE FAIL.)

[tigger_01]

Hi, people!
Just noticed that a few people have added me in the past few weeks - if I haven't added you back it's because I didn't know you added me, and I don't know who you are! There's an entry on the top of my LJ (which normally says Friends Only, but doesn't because Photobucket is being lame) - could you please drop a comment saying hello and

Comments

[vermontypython]

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING IN COPENHAGEN. LITERALLY.
There's a youth summit there, and I read a bit about that, but seriously? I AM GETTING NO FREAKING NEWS ABOUT IT AND I AM PANICKING.

hahaha here 'greenies' are a brand of dog treat. Glad I haven't been talking to a green rawhide toothbrush, lmao

[vermontypython]

NVM FOUND IT.

[tigger_01]

OH MY GOD YOU ARE SO CUTE AND YOU REALLY NEED TO READ A NEWSPAPER.

(Btw - LOL, well if I'm not a green rawhide toothbrush... doesn't make me feel better that you are an energy drink which tastes really good hot or cold. Sweet and chocolatey.)

[vermontypython]

don'tsayitdon'tsayitdon'tsayit
HELL YEAH I TASTE GOOD.

yeah I can't stop myself. SORRY

also, newspapers = dead trees. Plus I don't want to subscribe to the New York Times, because I've just found out the newspapers around here just care about local shit no one in their right mind should care about. BUT THE BBC PAGE HASN'T MENTIONED ANYTHING so I went to the Summit website and all is fixed!

*slightly sheepish*

[zombie_boogie]

THANK YOU. It really frustrates me that a) people don't give a shit about climate change and b) people don't understand how science works (this also comes into play when whackadoodles don't except the principles of evolution because it is "just a theory." RAGE). I'm pretty upset because the Canadian prime minister is kind of spearheading the anti-climate change movement as far as national governments go :/.

[khwabein]

You know what, the biggest thing I want to do at Copenhagen is just go LOL. Because I find it hilarious and annoying that they cannot SEE FOR SHIT!!

Seriously, climate change is killing us all. :(

*smishes you*

[tigger_01]

It is pretty LOL. Walkouts and fights (with interpreters as unwilling third parties!) - it just seems so petty and ridiculous while the world waits.

*smishes back*

[roh_wyn]

I happen to be one of the climate change non-believers, and I'm a scientist, fwiw. The models I've seen suggest that emissions are only one of various different factors that contribute to climate change, and IMO, the focus on carbon emissions to the exclusion of everything else us short-sighted.

It's also heavily politicized, and the folks who are really pushing cap-and -trade policies and carbon offset trading stand to make billions of dollars off such transacations. I think I can be forgiven for questioning their credibility.

Finally, I think encouraging people to do things that will result in cleaner air and water is good. I think encouraging people to conserve is a good thing. I just don't think it's the mist pressing problem in the world right now. *shrugs*

[tigger_01]

(Warning - dw if all this makes sense, but I... tried.)

I can respect your opinion - you know what you are talking about and you are informed, which is more than I can say for many, many people.

I don't understand all of the science, and I certainly don't know which solutions are just easy for economies/businessmen and which may actually just increase their bank accounts.
IDK. I'm just frustrated that rich countries are unwilling to let go of their profits to change their consumption habits, poor countries are angry that they will be worst affected and they aren't getting any help so they aren't willing to do anything either - and even if it's not the most *pressing* problem, at the rate we are going it will become pressing by the time we take some positive steps.

Most importantly I think having this banner is forcing people and governments to become aware that their reckless consumption has effects that will come back to haunt them - and conservation and cleaner forms of energy can only be a good thing, right

[roh_wyn]

It's true that oil and gas companies have a profit motive, but get, at least they're honest about it. ;)

Plus, the carbon offset trading creates no incentive for oil and gas to actually reduce emissions. As long as they can factor the cost of emissions into their usual budgets, they'll just keep on emitting. *shrugs*

[tigger_01]

(Not really. They buy up patents to alternative energy sources and they aren't so honest about that. :D)

[jmcgriff3]

as a meteorologist, I don't believe in it. It's all political nonsense. I've presented and written several papers relating to Global Climate Change/The Day After Tomorrow and taken Atmospheric Environments...

MOST of why the globe would be "warming" at all is due to natural occurances. Only a very tiny percentage of "global warming" is due to people.

The earth is going through it's natural stages like it always has. In other words, it's only fixing itself like it usually does. :D

that is ALL i'm going to say. xD
<3

[tigger_01]

As I said to roh_wyn, I don't understand all of the science and I don't know what's "true" one way or the other - but there's no way that the reckless consumption of resources and pollution caused by humanity in recent centuries can be a good thing - for the human race or for the planet, and we would probably be much better off by trying to limit this as much as we can. People need to understand that our actions have very long term consequences - and that needs to be factored in just as much as short term economic growth is. *shrug*