Green Room - Week 34 - Day 2

Jan 21, 2015 00:04

There are still some things that I'm thinking about, that I don't quite have a response to quite yet. But since when does "not knowing what to say" stop me from posting ( Read more... )

green room, season 9, week 34, day 02

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kickthehobbit January 21 2015, 05:08:12 UTC
...if I'm the center of the storm...does this mean we call it "Hurricane Jenn"?

...just a thought. :P

Also I'm happy to declare that I'm in a SUPER SEEEEKRIT alliance...with the queen of the goddam fairies.

She's promised that if I give her my true name I will go far in Idol!

Joke's on her, I hate my given name.

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clauderainsrm January 21 2015, 05:13:05 UTC
There is a Hold Steady song for this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEU_2WSLJEE

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kickthehobbit January 21 2015, 05:15:16 UTC
I'm pretty thoroughly convinced by this point in time that there's a song for everything. :)

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roina_arwen January 21 2015, 05:08:42 UTC
First... Okay, second!! Now off to read actual content...

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kickthehobbit January 21 2015, 05:09:54 UTC
lj says we posted at the same time. Share the FRIST! cookies? ;)

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roina_arwen January 21 2015, 05:13:24 UTC
Woo, half a frist is better than none!

*gives you half a cookie*

(Edited for better icon use)

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kickthehobbit January 21 2015, 05:14:55 UTC
COOKIE!

[noms with aplomb]

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swirlsofblue January 21 2015, 06:55:37 UTC
I find the notion of swearing by data fascinating. Perhaps if every single variable was accounted for, but this is hard at the best of times let alone in LJ Idol. We know relatively little about each others personal lives, these would be massive factors in a person's ability to write an entry. And we know relatively little about which factors might effect other factors, when is correlation not causation? How much are we going to consider outliers and multi-colinearity?

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anyonesghost January 21 2015, 15:52:06 UTC
Well, we know very little about each other. Gary knows more about us. And I'm sure LJ itself has a decent amount of data on our access patterns, posting habits, the linguistics of what we write, mood over time. Depending upon your browser settings, they may be seeing what other websites you visit, get a feel for other social media use, and then start parsing that into an interesting picture of this particular account.

... which they can they correlate with datasets from other companies, all the better to advertise to you. Trick is, you need enough of it to make an informed decision. But it's out there, for those who can find it -- data is yesterday's wave of the future.

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swirlsofblue January 21 2015, 15:58:20 UTC
Oh yes definitely, the data is out there. I do feel it's kind of a necessary evil at this point. But that still doesn't necessarily mean that even with that tremendous amount of data that there would be enough to cover all variables needed for a proper analysis.

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anyonesghost January 21 2015, 16:30:12 UTC
Oh, I don't know about that. It'd never be perfect, since individual actions and random chance can always cause an upset. But with enough data points, I think one could come close.

They're just beyond the scope of what any one of us could pull together ... especially given that we write different entries based on random prompts, and our entries aren't independent of the previous weeks' entries (ours or each others'), and the voting crowd changes from week to week to year to year, and there's a trend over time for the "average" entry to be of one genre over another (e.g., how did nonfiction, poetry, or "meta" entries fare in Season 9 on average?), and an entrant may have a predilection for one style over another, a certain tolerance for risk or experimentation, may react to a variable volume of positive or negative comments ... there's a lot that could be considered.

After all, they already do this sort of thing for sports.

Next up: the first "Fantasy LJ Idol" season. :-D

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halfshellvenus January 21 2015, 07:12:26 UTC
Damn, looks like I need to go back and read the prior Green Room again. I came in mid-way through, and was done before any controversy unrolled.

I did see some part of a conversation about the late-game twist in Exhibit B, and I still hate all that as much as I did at the time. So there's that. Which was then.

But otherwise, I freely invoke the Vague Happy Dance on Idol's behalf.

And now head to bed, as my business unit's manager called an 8:30am meeting and also made it clear that he wants everyone there in spite of the inconvenient hour. Yarg. :(

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vaudy January 21 2015, 13:55:42 UTC
Heh, I consider 8:30 cushy. I can take a shower and eat breakfast! But I start at 5am twice a week. Four times this past week. D: And 7am on a fairly regular basis.

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halfshellvenus January 21 2015, 20:10:56 UTC
:D I'm a night owl, and the office is 30-40 minutes away. So, I had to leave before I usually get up in order to make it on time.

5am would be awful.

Boy, I remember my radio days when I had to do the weekend sign-on shifts. In office by 5:30 on the weekend. The place I worked for three years, where I had both weekend days, at least went on-air at 7am and not 6am. :O

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hosticle_fifer January 21 2015, 23:00:24 UTC
Oh God, this. I need to set my alarm for a 10am meeting. An 8:30 start is a bad day. In my defense, I work until 8pm, then work out, then my personal recreation can begin, so ...my internal schedule is just shifted six hours thataway.

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fodschwazzle January 21 2015, 07:23:26 UTC
If it helps the conversation, I have a sheetspread with everyone's name on it. I will put it in the dryer with a couple of uncapped black dry-erase markers to see whose name gets marked out.

It would be funny if it hadn't happened in real life. To my wife's clothes. Due to me not emptying pockets.

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jexia January 21 2015, 07:27:09 UTC
Oh. Dear.

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