Every Saturday Morning

[tamago23]

Every Saturday Morning is a blog written by a woman who escorts at an abortion clinic. Especially for the Canadians on my list (it's a much more quiet debate here), it can be easy to forget the hurdles placed in the way of women trying to have control over their own bodies

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[birthingway]

Amen, amen, amen. It's just got to get better than this. Those fuckers need a new hobby: one that doesn't impede on the basic human rights of others.

[tamago23]

Some of the blog entries deal with the protesters bringing their whole families out with them - using small children to try to sway the women going to the clinic (including one protester who holds up her six-month-old baby facing the client, then walks backward in front of the woman all the way to the clinic doors). This is discussed more in the context that the children are rarely dressed appropriately and so they're often cold during the fall and winter months, but to your Those fuckers need a new hobby: one that doesn't impede on the basic human rights of others. I'd add and one that doesn't place their children in an improper situation while using them as political toolsI mean, I'm not automatically against using children as political tools; any time we have a nurse-in or I nurse in public as an attempt to normalize breastfeeding, I'm using my child as a political tool. Going to a homebirth rally with your child wearing a "Born at home!" tshirt is using your child as a political tool. But there's a vast difference between those

[rdi]

Bringing kids to that sort of environment verges on child abuse. I think someone should photograph those families and hand the photos over to the local child support agency. If nothing else, it might fuck with their lives for a while (And I know that's a bit of a touchy subject for you but I'm sure you'd agree those fuckers would deserve it.)

[tamago23]

Oh, there are definitely situations in which CAS involvement is warranted. And forcing your children to endure extreme cold in inappropriate clothing and placing them in violent situations is, IMO, reasonable grounds.

[lordindra]

If these protesters really want an end to abortion, their cause would be better served by things like fixing the adoption system- they'd probably get a few women to carry to term and put the child up if the adoption system could be trusted more. Not all, or even most, but enough to matter. EVen one fetus that becomes a happy(or at least vaguely content) human would be a win by their standards where every fetus counts

[tamago23]

Based on the facts that

[lordindra]

I tend to ascribe most of this to simple ignorance rather than active malice. I find it hard to give up hope that these people could be salvaged and made into reasonable, rational human beings. I'm probably wrong about most of them, but as rational as I try to be about everything, I can't shake my basic faith in humanity. I just hope the recent apparent rise in this sort of crap is just a dying gasp, the last few fanatics getting louder shortly before they all dissapear. The alternative, their position getting more common, is somewhat disturbing.

And not one of them, at least that I've seen, has had the balls to say "Yes, this does restrict womens choice, and I believe that restriction is justified". At least if they said that you could respect their honesty, if not the position they are being honest about. It might be somewhat misogynistic, but at least they'd recognize the relevance of women, whcih they don't do now. You have a good point on that one, they really are disposable vessels to the antichoice movement.

[rdi]

Antichoicers really make me glad I don't have access to firearms, cuz seriously? I'd be in there like the Merry Reaper. "Wanna meet your god? Wanna meet him NOW?!?" Not sure why they push that button in me, but they do.

[antonchigurh]

What gets me is most anti-abortion nuts are pro death penalty. Who cares if an adult dies, right? Just make sure that fetus lives. Then, when it's grown up, we won't care about them anymore.

I never understood why children are cherished more than adults. To my knowledge it's adults who keep society and mankind going. Plus, a child can end up growing up into a useless leech on society.

Does a child have potential? Maybe. Must most likely they'll just grow up average or mediocre. There's no guarantee of greatness within a child. Plus, many times greatness doesn't emerge from someone until they're an adult.

Children are overrated. Adults are neglected and ignored. The world can't sustain many more people. Humans will breed themselves to death.

[tamago23]

Then, when it's grown up, we won't care about them anymore.

I'd amend that to be, when it's born, we won't care about them anymore. We cross-posted our comments; you posted this one while I was posting my response to lordindra above, but I went into a good deal of detail about the lack of help that anti-choice types offer post-birth.

If never understood why children are cherished more than adults. To my knowledge it's adults who keep society and mankind going. Plus, a child can end up growing up into a useless leech on society.There we're getting into a whole 'nother issue, part of which is that in First World nations we've developed this culture that reinforces that children should be the center of things rather than just part of daily life. In some ways this is good, but in some ways this is bad. Any creatures that en-masse don't treat their children well are going to wind up with a whole lot less children (as in nature; most babies don't survive) and to support the lifestyle we've created in First World countries, we *need* a great deal

[tamago23]

Ooh. Good to know. I'll add an ETA to my post.

Can I just say I have an immense amount of respect for Henry Morgentaler? I read his biography and I know he's not the nicest guy and all, but seriously, he's done more for women than almost anyone in Canada, and he did it at his own expense.