Interesting news from the phrenology ward

May 16, 2006 15:03

Today in a psychotherapy session I was discussing my problems with relationships, and more specifically my lack of intimate relationships. The working theory is that my own emotional life is too intense to communicate to others and that I shut them out in ways I'm not consciously able to control, mostly nonverbal ( Read more... )

psychology, brain, neurology, autism, vagus, polyvagaltheory, emotions, psychiatry, ptsd, neuroscience, porges

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skepticle May 16 2006, 22:06:22 UTC
I wish you would sit down and realize that there is nothing wrong with you.

Or you could try:
http://www.palace.net/~llama/psych/dbt.html

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substitute May 16 2006, 22:08:35 UTC
Thanks, but... There's something rather spectacularly wrong. Trust me.

Also I am doing some behavioral stuff but it's difficult for reasons I won't go into here.

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skepticle May 16 2006, 23:19:07 UTC
I mean on the continuum, you fall within acceptable parameters.

What if you accepted that?

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substitute May 17 2006, 01:13:06 UTC
I understand what you're saying. I think maybe what I've failed to communicate is the degree to which emotion overload like this is just an overwhelming physiological phenomenon.

Anyway I didn't post this to have a thing about my own problems as much as I did to point out the research ideas.

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brianenigma May 16 2006, 22:32:19 UTC
Treating autism with sound? I heard something-or-other the other day; it was a sound-based hypnosis sort of thing. One sound was supposed to make you relaxed/calm, but not sleepy. Another was supposed to do give you good dreams. They all sounded like someone playing various tones of white noise through various processors. Also, they all started giving me headaches.

To me, it all sounded like fingernails on chalkboards. It also seemed like quackery. Admittedly, the sounds that I heard were probably not created by a PhD, but someone more toward the Alex Chiu end of the scale.

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substitute May 16 2006, 22:37:28 UTC
I don't know Porges' success rate. It's investigational, etc. However he's a real professor and not a crank, so if it doesn't work we'll hear about it too.

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eris_devotee May 16 2006, 23:15:52 UTC
Thank you so much for posting this. You have no idea... just, thank you.

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baconmeteor May 17 2006, 01:55:35 UTC
It continually amazes me how complete our ignorance is about how any of this stuff works. Of course, I wish you didn't have to be out there on the frontiers of this stuff reporting in... unless... unless...

is this just another cheap ploy to get me to tickle your vagus?

Because I won't be fooled again.

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substitute May 17 2006, 01:57:46 UTC
folks we're forgetting one of the most reliable ways to stimulate the vagal nerve and that's a little activity we call ANAL

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trinnit May 17 2006, 02:43:06 UTC
I vaguely remember from EMT class learning about the "vagus reflex"

And that it was bad. Like cross the streams bad.

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substitute May 17 2006, 04:39:50 UTC
Yes, it's why so many people die on the pot. Strain strain, vagus nerve spasm, heart switches off. Bad scene.

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ahhhlisaaah May 17 2006, 04:34:20 UTC
Thanks for sharing this information. I am fascinated by the human mind and how our environment since birth has shaped us into who we are. I have panic disorder and have had it since childhood - there are many different theories as to why and it basically represents many pieces of a puzzle because there isn't just one explanation. I have been on medication for eighteen years which works excellently in my world, though I know others have been successful in managing without. Until I wake up with a limb growing out the back of my head, I'm not messing with what works consistently.

Keep us all posted

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