Hello, almost weekend. You're looking mighty fine.

[stoney321]

I'm taking a break from landscaping today to mention a funny and ask an opinion of you.

1, Emily wore her bathing suit under her school clothes yesterday so when she got home she could get straight into the pool. o_0. I mentioned that we need to wear proper underwear to school from now on. Also, LOL.

2. What do we think about this comment? I

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[judetwee]

2. What do we think about this comment? I mean, going off my ideas is one thing, lifting the whole concept is pretty much a no no, right? Also, kinda like stealing? Esp. since I'm seriously considering adding a chapter to my book about Twilight being modern Mormon proselytizing (albeit unwitting proselytizing?)

Well, papers like that quote other papers/essays/books/internet sources all the time, or paraphrase stuff they get from their sources. It would be better if your book were published, because in that case she (he?) would be able to use that as a first-hand account. I suspect she (he??) would cite you properly in her paper even without quotes, since she's got her professors looking at it.

I wouldn't be surprised if she got her draft works cited page returned to her with the link to your LJ entry marked as questionable, though. Besides, I think someone has already written a 100 page thesis paper about the Mormon influences in Twilight. It was very boring.

[stoney321]

I almost replied with a link to that thesis you mentioned. It was AMAZINGLY boring and missed a few points, I thought.

I'm just... baffled by the comment, I suppose.

[judetwee]

It is kind of baffling. I'm not sure what the person meant by cannibalizing (it's not dead yet! /montypython), but nevertheless if you do not give permission then that material should not be used in the thesis. Not much else to do at this point but hope someone on that end is honest.

Hmm, yes, that thesis paper...somehow it managed to bore me even more than Twilight itself did, and I cut my copy of the book up to make an art project after writing crack!porn on chapter 13, which is where I stopped reading.

[stoney321]

(I feel happy! I think I'll go for a walk, now!)

Clearly this person weighs the same as a duck. I feel we should build a bridge out of her.

[stephanierb]

I love that your daughter wore her bathing suit under her school clothes. Did she just run straight through the house and out the back to the pool

[judetwee]

First off, citing a journal would get strange looks from her professors? In what universe?

I think the commenter meant the wording of the entry in question, with such fabulous quotes like 'And he's like, "No, you are a special, holy vessel and I shouldn't tarnish you. The rest of your humanity will be filled with longing for the sparkle peen!"'

[stephanierb]

Well, yes, that would get strange looks from anyone. :-)

I assumed the writer would not be using those particular quotes in their thesis, but whether s/he quotes directly or paraphrases, the writer will have to cite the source. Otherwise, it can't be used.

[stephanierb]

I should also add that it's possible your journal might not meet whatever standards his/her institution has for acceptable internet sources. But that will depend on his/her university. That said, they'll either find it acceptable - since this is something you post about regularly and have cited references yourself - or they won't, in which case, s/he would not be able to use the information found here.

[beadattitude]

Oh Emily, you cutie.

2. OH HELLS NO. Plagarism.

[stoney321]

SHE REALLY IS.

And thank you, I thought as much.

[sheafrotherdon]

Re: 2 - if she means, by cannibalizing your notes, she's using your post to find the original books/sources and read them herself, that's a-okay.

if she means, by cannibalizing your notes, she's paraphrasing what you're saying and not citing you as the source, that's unethical and, oh, plagiarism. (I'm guessing that she's not going to cite you, even for her paraphrasing, since she said that her professors would look askance at her quoting from you directly. I can only imagine that's because they're looking for her to use academic sources, not because they're anti-internet (which could be implied) - all major citation styles have ways to cite journals, blogs, forums, databases, webpages, so if that's her objection, she's uh, wrong.)

I think it's worth asking her to clarify what she means.

Also - if she imagines that she's the first person to be taking this to academic circles, she's very, very wrong. A friend of mine (who's a lit professor) has been at three conferences in the last year that had Twilight panels.

[stoney321]

Right, right - I mentioned in a comment above that if they meant the links that I got from places like LDS.org, then clearly that's acceptable. If they're going to take my concepts, discussions, interpretations, etc., then... And how are they going to cite me? "Stoney321?" Um, I can't imagine that holding up in a professional academic environment.

And there are BOOKS on the themes of Twilight! Only one thesis I know of deals with the Mormon influences, but the philosophical analysis of that series (excuse me while I crack the hell up) has flooded the world.

[megarandom]

Exactly this on citing. Citing internet sources is getting pretty common, now.

[stoney321]

LOL, thanks for the vote of confidence! No one can take my sparklepeen from me! Sheeeet, I have an Urban Dictionary entry dedicated to my creation of sparklepeen!