but i'll burn that bridge when i get to it

Feb 29, 2008 03:57

Hello. I am Kendra's complete and utter disillusionment with American politics ( Read more... )

+politics, joining the disillusioned masses, life: uterus woes, fuck, may possibly commit homicide

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soujiokita February 29 2008, 11:19:10 UTC
You should still vote. Just sayin'.

I did have a rant typed up, but it was angry and I'm not sure how coherent it was.

You should still vote.

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spiderstars February 29 2008, 13:13:55 UTC
I know I should, and I actually had a fairly long conversation on my responsibility as an American citizen to vote with my rhetoric teacher. But knowing you should isn't the same as doing, especially since at this rate I don't care who wins the primary. I'd probably vote in November, but that's November, not now.

I know it's probably upsetting to you, someone who really loves history (especially American history) and I'd be interested in you yelling at me to get off my ass and care.

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aeirol February 29 2008, 12:42:39 UTC
No committing homicide. Unless you decide to run for president too, then you could do it on a platform of feminine strength and how pain should be abolished. Every female in the country would vote for you. Although you'd probably not appreciate it.

And I have something to make you feel better. DUFTA didn't have a table last week so I couldn't get your chocolate, but Rachel and I were in cahoots yesterday and I have it now! Chocolate is good for the soul in pain.

Also, do you want to go to Granville tomorrow or today? And what time if so.

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spiderstars February 29 2008, 13:16:02 UTC
Yes. Because I'm going to run on a platform of feminine strength.

Chocolate! Hahaha, I already pigged out on CVS chocolate, but more won't hurt!

Uh, I'm going home this evening but I may/may not take a nap between 1:30 and 5:00. I'll have to call. Also, are you going to be eating at 1:30? Because if you are you should call me and I'll meet you at Curtis (if you want).

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aeirol February 29 2008, 13:58:25 UTC
I figured you'd catch that. :)

I am planning on eating around then, and naps are wonderful things that I plan on availing myself of. I ave class from 12:30 to 1:20, so meet you in Curtis?

Also, I am disappointed to say that The Other Boleyn Girl did not get good reviews from critics, although people seem to like it. (going by Yahoo movies here)

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spiderstars February 29 2008, 18:03:53 UTC
Psh, screw the critics.

Oh, me the anti-feminist.

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tommyrotter February 29 2008, 16:36:18 UTC
Hahaha nice Fight Club reference!

I was looking up Hilary and Obama too last night, and I, also, found that there isn't a big difference between the candidates. This might not necessarily be a bad thing! When one inevitably is chosen over the other, it's not going to feel like the end of the world is the way I'm seeing it. And it shouldn't be too hard to fill in a dot.

And who's to say they aren't concerned with "truth" as well? It's tough to damn them just due to their profession.

And as I said before, sorry about your organs ♥

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spiderstars February 29 2008, 18:01:58 UTC
I figured you'd get that.

I just don't see the point in voting for the primary when I don't care who wins either way.

The politician concerned with truth probably doesn't get elected. And you notice all the candidates are promising things that they don't necessarily have the power to achieve. It's the "anything for a vote" mentality, and of course it's the necessity of politics. There's nothing demanding that I like it.

Thank you baby. ♥

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Need a ridiculous rationale? lystellion February 29 2008, 23:39:33 UTC
#1 Vote for one or other of them. That way you can be disgusted when they do something you don't like, because you, like, supported them way back in the beginning. And hey if we're being Dostoyeveksianly honest we can admit that being disgusted at things in politics is usually good times.

And if they do something you like you can be glad you supported them. Either way it is good.

#2. Vote for Obama. A friend of mine seems to like him and my totally non-informed mind gets the vague and almost totally unjustified impression he might be a mite better than Hilary Clinton.

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But seriously, I do see what you mean about politics and I understand why you're apthetic, but you needn't think that making a choice on this entails lots of arduous study. That said, the fact that the two candidates don't seem to offer alternatives kind of undermines the whole point of making an active choice.

So, do you ever have one of those days that no matter what you intend to say, you end up sounding like a raving bitch when you open your mouth?Adjusting ( ... )

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Re: Need a ridiculous rationale? spiderstars March 1 2008, 00:58:38 UTC
Or, #3. Politics are utterly and I should write in the existentialist of my choice.

And, please, define the word "Dostoyeveksianly." Also: can I use it in my text paper for class?

I just ... I don't know. I feel like I should care, and if I don't have the time/energy to make an informed choice then I really shouldn't make one at all. Or, not-voting is my deep, intellectual form of protest against the corrupt political system but ... no. Not quite.

And, there's nothing I've encountered that makes bitchiness gender-specific. Just like I've meant plenty of females where 'dickhead' is a pretty apt term to describe them.

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Re: Need a ridiculous rationale? lystellion March 1 2008, 01:31:30 UTC
'Dostoyevskianly' is what it should have come out like. As you probably figured I made it up, I'm refering to the fact that Dostoyevsky recognizes accutely in Notes From Underground that we can derive satisfaction from complaining about things. As far as I can remember, Bertrand Russell in his i>History of Western Philosophy references Dostoyevsky (using the adjective Dostoyevskian I believe) as saying that we sin for the pleasure of repenting, which is not far from voting for someone so you can have the pleasure of regreting that you voted for them. Dostoyevsky's view might well be a bit more nuanced than that, but that's the sense I take it in ( ... )

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Re: Need a ridiculous rationale? spiderstars March 1 2008, 04:27:29 UTC
we can derive satisfaction from complaining about things.

Oh goodness how true.

Out of curiosity, what do you think of Mr. Bertrand Russell?

See, the only thing with equating bastard to bitchiness is that bastard can sometimes be used as a compliment (amongst my step-father's family members most notably) whereas very rarely to I hear people referred to as a "bitch" in a good way. Of course, "bitch" is that lovely brand of pettiness mostly specific to females. With the except of a few, most of the girls I know are catty back-stabbers, and this fact has only been highlighted by living with 60-some of them in the same building.

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