How to Talk to a Wall

Jun 19, 2007 21:10

Every time my dad drives me to the airport, we have the same conversation. If you can call it that.

Cut because I am a horrible son and also probably a horrible person as well )

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minim_calibre June 20 2007, 05:09:02 UTC
I think you just haven't met the right Indians. Could you put, and I'm not as joking as one might think, a personal type ad on Craigslist? Geeky and kinda hip Desi seeks same for rolling eyes at traditional families, feeling our way around our crazy, mixed up cultural mix, and finding ways to be Indian while being ourselves?

Cause, dude, I hear similar things from so many Indians, there has GOT to be a support group or something.

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spectralbovine June 20 2007, 05:15:04 UTC
Where are these awesome Indians, dammit? I wonder if they would even count. Maybe they wouldn't be Indian enough.

I should look for this support group.

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rachelmanija June 20 2007, 06:39:32 UTC
You're not the only fannish Indian on my f-list. (And no, I bet your Dad would not think they're sufficiently authentically Indian.) Seriously, I think minim_calibre has a good idea-- not to please your impossible father, but in the LJ spirit of meeting cool new people whom you actually have something in common with.

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spectralbovine June 20 2007, 06:42:12 UTC
I am certainly thinking of putting her plan into action.

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spectralbovine June 20 2007, 18:47:42 UTC
All your parents need to know is that you now have friends with the right kind of names.
Ha. Right. I have to learn their parents' names too, and what they do, and where they went to school, and their astrological sign. This is all important, you know.

Though it does make me think that if you do eventually decide to settle down with someone and breed, you'll be an amazing dad.
I hope so. I fear that I'll just turn into my dad instead.

Baby baby baby!

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not_vacillating June 20 2007, 08:05:44 UTC
Popping in (I know I rarely comment) to give you *hugs* and say that I, too, know other fannish Indians, so it might well be worth keeping your eyes open for them. (I'd refer you straight to my dear Indian friend if she wasn't British rather than American ( ... )

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spectralbovine June 20 2007, 15:13:31 UTC
Thank you so much for the reassurance that there are people out there for me.

As for the MSN stuff, my parents are fairly technologically illiterate and hardly use the computer at all. And, honestly, I really don't want to talk to them over the computer. The computer is my safe space. I get weirded out enough talking to my cousins on IM.

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not_vacillating June 20 2007, 16:42:50 UTC
You're welcome. I know I've needed to hear that at various times in the past.

Fair enough-- I just wanted to pass on what had worked for me. There are other approaches, of course; a friend of mine decided to cut down how often his parents called by dropping into conversation examples of offspring who called much less often. He'd say, "Ah, good to speak to you again, mum-- do you know, I have a friend who only calls home when he wants money?" and the next time she called, "Hello again! It feels like I spoke to you only yesterday-- oh, wait, I did. Quite unlike everyone else who only hears from nhome once a month." I suspect it worked in his case because his mother cared deeply about being seen as normal-- I fear your parents could easily take it as evidence that they were so much better than the parents of your friends, and call even more often.

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spectralbovine June 20 2007, 16:50:44 UTC
Oh yes. They don't want to be like those white people, remember?

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not_vacillating June 21 2007, 09:43:51 UTC
Yes indeed. I typed that and then went, wait, that won't work exactly as described. I do wonder, though, if it could be varied to produce something which would work-- but really only you can work that out, I suspect. In the meantime, I agree with those who are suggesting that seeking fannish Indians rather than merely Indians is a good way to go. (Have you checked just in case there's a lj-comm for just such a purpose? There's an lj-comm for nearly everything, after all.)

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spectralbovine June 21 2007, 15:31:35 UTC
Heh. I should try to look. I joined a couple Desi comms that I never check, since they're just general comms.

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not_vacillating June 21 2007, 19:25:45 UTC
I have to confess I don't know what the best search terms would be!

Good idea. If you find people that with whom you have other things in common, you'll be off to a good start. When you've watched them for a while, you could think about making an introduction post mentioning your fandoms, or starting a dicussion thread about TV and/or books, or even asking if anyone else there has problems with their parents disliking their mix of friends! Just as b.org conversations tend to spread from fandom outwards, conversations about other things can often be steered in such a way that you bring the fannish people out of the woodwork. I know that's worked for me in the past (e.g. with fellow university students).

Overflowing with advice, aren't I?

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spectralbovine June 21 2007, 19:39:04 UTC
I perused desixtc again and found that it was, indeed, very, very Indian, but...I guess that's the best place to meet some Indians, right? Maybe I'll become more Indian that way. Plus, one girl made a Heroes post. I added the comm to my flist so maybe I would keep up with it and find interesting posts and people.

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not_vacillating June 21 2007, 19:46:34 UTC
That's a good start. If you've got anything at all to say, replying to the Heroes post or comments on it might be worthwhile. At the very least, having a fandom conversation in an Indian community will reassure you that it is possible!

Also, I should have said this earlier, relax. I think that if you're happy with your friends and yourself, more people you want to be friends with will come to you, and who cares where they're from.

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spectralbovine June 21 2007, 19:57:15 UTC
MY PARENTS. THAT'S WHO.

I would have replied to the Heroes post, but it's from May. I'll wait for a better opportunity. Or make my own, when I come up with a Craigslist post.

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