Starfire and the Outsiders

[sistermagpie]

I had stuck a couple of things up on Tumblr that can be a little grouped together here, plus there's a link to a good article, so

Comments

[etrangere]

is there really that many people defending Starfire's portrayal? Everything I've seen was very negative about it.

[sistermagpie]

I have--though it's not that they're defending the whole comic as good. It's more of people feeling they need to temper their criticism of Kori or point out how this aspect of it is good. Where as I think people should feel free to full out reject it and draw a distinction between sex positive and...this.

[etrangere]

Ahh. I see.

[ava_jamison]

Oh my god, I am right there with you on this. So much yes. It's not about sex-positivity, people!

Got to agree that women in DC have been having sex for a long time. Sometimes even WITH all their brain functions. Poor, poor Kory.

That's a great essay by Laura Hudson! Thanks for the link. Those panels in that essay are massively depressing but incredibly clear. Damn it, DC.

[sistermagpie]

It occurs to me that it's like one of those personal/political moments. Because for me it's like her outfit--it's blatantly designed to be awful. But if somebody gets empowerment from it, more power to them! It's great when people can get something good out of something even if it wasn't meant that way. But when it becomes about how other people can't complain because it's insulting to those people I feel like look, if you can ignore the fail in the comic to get something out of it you can ignore other people.

[ava_jamison]

You know what? That's a really good analogy.

One thing that cheers me up a little is that so far the reviews have been unanimously calling it the worst comic of the week/reboot, and who knows--so far it's got to be near the top if not THE top for worst of the year.

(Ha! Your flamingo was unexpected!)

[musesfool]

Thanks for the link to that article. That does a really good job explaining the problems with Starfire's characterization in particular.

[sistermagpie]

Doesn't it? I liked how it put it into the larger context. The trouble with these sorts of things is how they subtle play on different, conflicting things at once.