Sherlock Holmes 2

Dec 17, 2011 02:43

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So. I saw Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows today. There are some bits I like about this movie. ( Spoilers that aren't specific at all, I don't think )

argh, anger anger anger, sherlock holmes, rage, an insomniac am i, rant

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giving_ground December 17 2011, 15:57:00 UTC
So Noomi Rapace was on the radio here the other day and she was all like, uggggghhhhh, I bitched at them so much and I kept trying to make the character a bit more alive. But they cut that stuff of course! It did... not make me feel more motivated to see the film.

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schweinsty December 17 2011, 20:09:52 UTC
Yeah. There's this moment where - because Irene gets poisoned and dies coughing bloodily into a handkerchief, which Moriarty then gives to Sherlock to make him angst - Sherlock and John are on a boat, and Sherlock takes this bloody, soiled napkin and sets it ~free~ and drops it off the boat while he and Watson give each other angsty looks, which - honestly, I really wish I were still in uni, because that is the most apt metaphor for how this movie treats womanhood ever ( ... )

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nthdraft December 17 2011, 18:01:33 UTC
you know, I am glad Irene dies for once. I have hated her for thirty years, the way old school Sherlockians practically worship her for saving their hero from being a "confirmed bachelor" or worse ;-) Glad someone offed her before she could become the mother of Nero Wolfe.

Considering in the canon it's Mary who gets put on a bus off camera, nice to see the turnaround. But seriously, it's Holmes, women are teh ebil even when they're damsels in distress.

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schweinsty December 17 2011, 20:14:43 UTC
Eh, I guess it's because I wasn't really in the SH fandom until a couple years ago, though I read the stories when I was younger, but I never really thought of Irene as much of a love interest or anything for Holmes - I thought she just interested him because she defied his misogynist stereotyping. Or something. He always coded as so ace to me.

And honestly, I wouldn't have had such a huge problem with it if it hadn't been handled in such an offhand fashion; if she'd died during the climax saving the world or something - but she just got offed in the first ten minutes after being so incompetent compared to how she was in the first movie, it just grated so much.

I was actually kind of hoping they would have taken the chance of these movies to comment on Holmes' misogyny (and they sort of did, actually, but in this one it was done by Fry while he was in the aforementioned naked scene, so), but besides a bit of lip service, they just sort of ran with it, and IDK. It just irritated me quite a bit.

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lobelia321 April 1 2012, 21:58:15 UTC
Yes, yes and yes.

What even. *sighs*

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