Fic OF DOOM is done. In addition to all the warnings below, I should also mention that apparently I can't resist fic as meta, either. ( a quick thought about the show finale )
Gosh, I don't know if I can take being the first person to review this!
I certainly did not laugh. Well, maybe only once at this: "Two for two."
This felt..appropriately and humanly bleak. If I say not epic, will that make sense? I mean it as a compliment in how it's on such a personal level , rather than being about the grand idealism of a new beginning. You could have made it harsher I suppose, but maybe that wasn't needed to make it feel right? I certainly think what you have fits well. Early on in reading I actually forgot about the warnings for a minute until I remembered that there was no way this would end well. And there isn't a real resolution and I kind of love that.
I agree that Lee certainly can't take all of the blame for how hard their lives are going to be. It just hurts to think of when the shiny newness of it wears off. He is a very convenient scapegoat to curse about their collective failure of decision making though. ;)
I'm glad the 'two for two' line worked. (It made me giggle but by then I felt like I'd lost all perspective on this whole story, so...)
If I say not epic, will that make sense? Heh, that's sort of what one of the people said who had an early look at it! I'm glad it worked as a more personal view on life after the finale.
I agree that Lee certainly can't take all of the blame for how hard their lives are going to be. It just hurts to think of when the shiny newness of it wears off. He is a very convenient scapegoat to curse about their collective failure of decision making though. ;)
Oh, I really want those ships and that fuel for the poor Colonials. Even if they're only used for scrap metal eventually. And yes, poor Lee gets to be the symbol of any/all mistakes made as they go from ships to new planet. silly boy
I loved the character of Laine -- the fact that she was older and once had children on Picon, the fact she didn't fall in love with Leoben and it wasn't all a fairytale.
I loved the character of Laine -- the fact that she was older and once had children on Picon, the fact she didn't fall in love with Leoben and it wasn't all a fairytale.
Yay! I was feeling rather paranoid by the time I was finished that no one would be interested in my made-up character.
Poor Jonah indeed. I had a hard time writing his parts...
I deliberately left the settlement size vague because I'm not sure how many people an area of a certain size can support with hunting and gathering. But... in my mind it was around fifty people. Maybe a few more.
Yay! You posted! I did something you mentioned about a few of my vids. I actually cut and pasted the final copy of this and saved it to my hard drive. And I never do that. I generally am in denial that everything won't be on the internest forever. But this fic, this fic is a keeper.
This is the fic I've been waiting for. Seriously. They wanted to live without tech, then live--and die--without it. I wanted to know what that would be like. I wanted to know about finding food and what to drink out of and first winters and all of it. The show gave us the information, decision, without the detail and writing detail is something you excel at.
Rose, you've always created such wonderful worlds. It's a skill. You know I don't even like the planets. :-) But from Prophecy to Nemesis to Never Get Back Home, you show this abilty to create whole words. Caprica, Earth, and Earth II all live and breath as real places, as do the characters trying to forge lives there. Kara, Jean, Trina, Laine. You have such a way with the characters in the
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Thank you. And thanks again for all of the positive, cheering words you sent my way while I was writing this. I really needed them.
Someone said it recently, that they didn't just give up technology, they gave up civilization. I think the separation is what made it worse for me.
There wasn't really an option, though. Because of their circumstances, they really have no alternative but to split apart. Subsistence-level living requires game to hunt and food to gather. No one area can support a really large group if they're forced to live off the land and don't have crops to plant.
It failed on New Caprica and might have failed on Earth II, but honestly Lee was the last person I thought would suggest giving it all up. Their lives had been bleak and would have continued to have been. Maybe I'm naive to think that books and history and the ideals, if not things, would have made a difference. Law . . . everything. Lee surprised me. I don't 'blame' him (they all did agree with his suggestion), but he
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Subsistence-level living requires game to hunt and food to gather. No one area can support a really large group if they're forced to live off the land and don't have crops to plant.But the thing is they didn't have to get rid of technology or stop at least trying to retain civilization. They could have the ships, the resources, the medicine, all of their shared skills and knowledge. Heck, they could have still had tent schools. Where was the paper mill on New Caprica? They could have tried do live how they did on New Caprica, minus the Cylon strife. How long it would have lasted? I don't know. Also, about crops, yeah, I don't know. I actually do not think these people would survive on Earth II at all, actually. Sorry, Laine! One bad winter or illness and it's over. I think people's strength is in numbers and helping each other. Prehistoric people had evolution and perhaps skills these people didn't
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I certainly did not laugh. Well, maybe only once at this:
"Two for two."
This felt..appropriately and humanly bleak. If I say not epic, will that make sense? I mean it as a compliment in how it's on such a personal level , rather than being about the grand idealism of a new beginning. You could have made it harsher I suppose, but maybe that wasn't needed to make it feel right? I certainly think what you have fits well. Early on in reading I actually forgot about the warnings for a minute until I remembered that there was no way this would end well. And there isn't a real resolution and I kind of love that.
I agree that Lee certainly can't take all of the blame for how hard their lives are going to be. It just hurts to think of when the shiny newness of it wears off. He is a very convenient scapegoat to curse about their collective failure of decision making though. ;)
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If I say not epic, will that make sense?
Heh, that's sort of what one of the people said who had an early look at it! I'm glad it worked as a more personal view on life after the finale.
I agree that Lee certainly can't take all of the blame for how hard their lives are going to be. It just hurts to think of when the shiny newness of it wears off. He is a very convenient scapegoat to curse about their collective failure of decision making though. ;)
Oh, I really want those ships and that fuel for the poor Colonials. Even if they're only used for scrap metal eventually. And yes, poor Lee gets to be the symbol of any/all mistakes made as they go from ships to new planet.
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I loved the character of Laine -- the fact that she was older and once had children on Picon, the fact she didn't fall in love with Leoben and it wasn't all a fairytale.
Poor Jonah :(.
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I loved the character of Laine -- the fact that she was older and once had children on Picon, the fact she didn't fall in love with Leoben and it wasn't all a fairytale.
Yay! I was feeling rather paranoid by the time I was finished that no one would be interested in my made-up character.
Poor Jonah indeed. I had a hard time writing his parts...
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How big was Laine's settlement?
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I deliberately left the settlement size vague because I'm not sure how many people an area of a certain size can support with hunting and gathering. But... in my mind it was around fifty people. Maybe a few more.
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This is the fic I've been waiting for. Seriously. They wanted to live without tech, then live--and die--without it. I wanted to know what that would be like. I wanted to know about finding food and what to drink out of and first winters and all of it. The show gave us the information, decision, without the detail and writing detail is something you excel at.
Rose, you've always created such wonderful worlds. It's a skill. You know I don't even like the planets. :-) But from Prophecy to Nemesis to Never Get Back Home, you show this abilty to create whole words. Caprica, Earth, and Earth II all live and breath as real places, as do the characters trying to forge lives there. Kara, Jean, Trina, Laine. You have such a way with the characters in the ( ... )
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Thank you. And thanks again for all of the positive, cheering words you sent my way while I was writing this. I really needed them.
Someone said it recently, that they didn't just give up technology, they gave up civilization. I think the separation is what made it worse for me.
There wasn't really an option, though. Because of their circumstances, they really have no alternative but to split apart. Subsistence-level living requires game to hunt and food to gather. No one area can support a really large group if they're forced to live off the land and don't have crops to plant.
It failed on New Caprica and might have failed on Earth II, but honestly Lee was the last person I thought would suggest giving it all up. Their lives had been bleak and would have continued to have been. Maybe I'm naive to think that books and history and the ideals, if not things, would have made a difference. Law . . . everything. Lee surprised me. I don't 'blame' him (they all did agree with his suggestion), but he ( ... )
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Subsistence-level living requires game to hunt and food to gather. No one area can support a really large group if they're forced to live off the land and don't have crops to plant.But the thing is they didn't have to get rid of technology or stop at least trying to retain civilization. They could have the ships, the resources, the medicine, all of their shared skills and knowledge. Heck, they could have still had tent schools. Where was the paper mill on New Caprica? They could have tried do live how they did on New Caprica, minus the Cylon strife. How long it would have lasted? I don't know. Also, about crops, yeah, I don't know. I actually do not think these people would survive on Earth II at all, actually. Sorry, Laine! One bad winter or illness and it's over. I think people's strength is in numbers and helping each other. Prehistoric people had evolution and perhaps skills these people didn't ( ... )
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