I was thinking. And yes, it hurt.

[pprfaith]

But seriously, it's like this, okay.

Zombie apocalypse. Yes, I may have been watching Walking Dead, shut up, Daryl Dixon makes my life better. And there's nothing wrong with a good zombie, I don't care how my parents look at me

Comments

[sin_stained_ink]

Hmmm, I think werewolves could probably be infected, but I think vampires would have some sort of immunity that comes from them being pretty much dead.

I think they'd go underground as much as possible, try to stay out of it, but I think they'd also end up helping eventually (maybe trying to figure out a way to pass on the immunity the vampires have without turning everyone into vampires) because, well, zombies don't care if they eat humans or vampires (if there are any humans left).

The vampires and werewolves wouldn't want to work together, because the vampires would probably think of the werewolves as a liability because they can be infected, but I'm pretty sure that they'd eventually run out of options and force some sort of working relationship to keep everyone as free of infection as possible because, as I said above, the zombies would probably eat anything.

[pprfaith]

I like the working relationship idea between wolves and vampires. They'd bitch at each other endlessly, wouldn't they?

Would they really 'help' the humans, though, or just save enough to make sure they have something to chow on/breed with/whatever? I mean, a few thousand humans in a safe place should do the trick, right?

Can the vampires use the shifters as food? Because that'd make things a bit awkward, I think.

[sin_stained_ink]

Helping the humans would mean that there'll be more for them to feast on, plus some of the vampires might be turning people or close friends so that they don't become zombies, so more vampires means more blood is needed.

Plus, there's a good chance that keeping humans alive would turn out well for them: allies and all if they ever manage to turn fix the world.

I don't think they'd be able to eat the shifters--maybe they'd taste wrong or making them ill.

[pprfaith]

I think turning people to save them would be a problem, because new vampires needs more blood and attention than you can really give them in post-apocalypse land. Same goes for weres infecting people. There's no time to teach them properly and they'd end up liabilities.

If vamps can feed off of weres, that'd give a reason for the long standing universal canon animosity between them, though. Vamps group them with the cattle, when they're really equals...

[ladyjanelly]

Oooh, so many options.

So, Vampires, even if they aren't infect-able, have just had their "herd" thinned by like 50-90%. How do they react? Do they gather the un-infected into food-warehouses, or do they set themselves as benevolent protector over small enclaves in exchange for freely given sustenance? Some do one and some do the other and then they fight bloody battles to claim more thralls?

For some reason I'd think the weres would be able to zombify. Just because that would be awesome scary stuff.

[pprfaith]

How does the herd get 'thinned'?

I mean, if they're not infect-able, then how do they die? Zombies don't exactly wield stakes, right?

Enclaves... single vampire and a bunch of humans, or are you thinking bigger scale? Can I steal that idea?

[ladyjanelly]

I was thinking "herd" as their available supply of food animals (humans). Vamp population stays the same, humans become decimated. Maybe they realize just how many vamps there are now that there are fewer easy prey like hookers and the homeless

[pprfaith]

Ah, I thought vampire herd. Which gave me a mental image of herbivorous vamps. Anyway.

I think they could probably rip a vampire apart. If the head comes off, they'd be dead, right?

I can look, but I can't make any promises. When I get preoccupied with one idea, I can't always switch tracks.

[avamclean]

If we're talking pure BtVS: I would think the more powerful demons (IE D'Hoffrin and such) would jump ship to another dimension that wasn't being overrun. Perhaps high fiving the the demon that brought on the end to this version of the human race?

Werewolves are pretty much humans who turn furry three days out of the month so they could be infected and vampires are demons in human bodies so a blood born pathogen (which is how most zombie viruses are portrayed) I think would affect them as well. Though I am curious if they'd still burst into flames if hit by sunlight...

[pprfaith]

I was thinking more general urban fantasy than BtVS specific, but fleeing the dimension has a certain ring to it.

But if the zombie pathogen kills the host and then animates the dead body, wouldn't that clash with an already animated body? I mean, magic vs virus. My money is on the magic, I think. Plus, do vamps even have circulation to spread the virus. I've always wondered about stuff like growing hair and nails and bleeding when injured. They're dead. They shouldn't do that.

[avamclean]

Depends on the type of zombie in the BtVS realm zombies were magically animated by that African Mask so it would be magic vs magic. Angel and Spike managed to grow their hair and get erections so I'm assuming something pushes their blood around, but you're also assuming that a virus requires moving blood to navigate and not all of them do. Viruses can move independently from the blood flow and some get into Lymph systems... it all depends on the virus.

In the Anita Blake realm the vampires do have a pulse and thus blood does flow through them and in the Vampire Diaries realm a werewolf bite acts like a virus infecting them and ultimately killing them so those two types of vampires might be more susceptible.

Though the idea of the virus infecting the vampire, but not transforming it is interesting. They would carriers of the infection so everyone they bit (regardless if they survived the bite or not) would be reanimated.

[pprfaith]

So vampires as zombie virus carriers? That would make killing them right alongside the zombies the only smart option.

Maybe... Anne Rice-ish vamps grow more powerful with age. The really old ones are almost indestructible. Maybe the young ones can get converted into sort of überzombies but age build an immunity?

Personally, I never liked explaining shifters and/or vamps away as viruses. Viri? Anyway. That's too sciency for me. And it takes all the fun out of it. Plus, then it'd just be virus vs virus and probably mutate into a supervirus that creates Resident Evil 4 like freaks.

Okay, erections are a good point to leave vamps some bodily functions. They'd be boring without sex. Anne Rice is the only one who's ever gone there. And her explanation creeped me out.

... So blood flow. So, not fully dead. So probably suceptible to zombiefication.

Damn. You got me.

[dharkapparition]

I think that vamps would die. really die, not become zombies.

Weres wouldn't get infected but could be killed by zombies, because not much can live without a head.

[pprfaith]

But why would the vamps die? Through contaminated blood or something? I mean, if the weres, who are actually alive, don't get infected, the technically dead shouldn't be infected either, should they?

If we're talking Resident Evil, then even animals can get infected, so weres would be a reasonable assumption.

Not dissing the idea of vamps dying, just curious as to your reasoning. Most suggestions so far went the opposite way, immune vamps, zombiefied weres.

[tigriswolf]

Hmm... I'm thinking vampires are immune, shifters aren't - but, if a vampire gave blood to a shifter, then the shifter would be immune.

Because the werewolf-vampire hybrid from Underworld was kickass awesome.

[pprfaith]

Ha! Great minds and all that. I'm thinking, vampire blood, if applied to zombie bites, staves off infection. No actual immunity, but it disinfects the wounds. Which is a nice excuse, plotwise, for vampires and humans/shifters to work together. Each needs the other ones' blood.

[tigriswolf]

So, vampires can feed off shifters? I figure, if they can feed off people and animals, shifters are definitely in the running - except, unlike people and aniamls, shifters can fight back.

But. Vampires can fight zombies without fear of turning, and a little nip of blood here and there in payment isn't too high a price, so, yeah. Allies in the new world.

Also! Do you have all kinds of shifters or just werewolves?

[pprfaith]

Yep, they can feed off of shifters. So really, who needs humans? Pshhhhhhhhhhh.

Currently, I only have wolves, but there might be more? Not sure yet. I don't really want to bother, though.