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expanding_x_man August 23 2010, 12:28:10 UTC
I discovered and posted this last year and it is so depressing and compelling. I read on Snopes that there may be an exaggeration for some reason of the Muslim birth rates in some EU countries (I have heard 3 or 4) but no matter what even Snopes can't say it is entirely untrue. The Muslim immigrants still are double, at least, double, the native European birthrates in many cases. And, often - triple! So, really, they are in trouble and this means the world is in trouble.

I think a lot about this and why it has happened. I see civil war on the horizon for many EU countries and really, we will be hardpressed to do something about this ourselves.

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polaris93 August 23 2010, 17:42:48 UTC
Yes. Apparently Muslims seek every opportunity to expand the rule of Islam -- well, many Muslims, anyway. Ordinary people want to just get through the day and live as best they can and feed their children and keep a roof over their heads, and there must be plenty of Muslims like that. But the mullahs and Ayatollahs and other leaders include many who recruit and exhort the rank and file to do their bidding, which is aimed at world conquest. Up until very recently, we Westerners had no idea what was up, and they had every opportunity to push their program unhindered. So the hour is very late indeed for saving Western civilization. If we don't, the world will slip back into a night from which it will never emerge.

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expanding_x_man August 24 2010, 08:12:23 UTC
If we don't, the world will slip back into a night from which it will never emerge.

I do agree!

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polaris93 August 25 2010, 02:27:47 UTC
You might like Tom Kratman's novel Caliphate, which, among other things, makes it clear that left to their own devices in a world without any other serious religions to compete with Islam, Muslims won't create or maintain a scientifically and technologically advanced and advancing civilization. It has to do with Occasionalism, the belief that things only happen because Allah wills them to -- and that if All does not will something to happen, it won't, no matter how hard people work to make it happen. Practice, preparation, initiative, investigation -- none of it means anything, because Allah does everything. Now, if they were to junk that idea, they could advance on their own. But as long as they cling to it, they can only borrow scientifically and technologically from others, and never come up with anything new in those arenas on their own. So if Islam takes over the world, guess what happens to all our dreams of getting to the stars? Islam has turned into one great big gigantic enormous cargo-cult, because its beliefs make it ( ... )

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