"Arthur Miller did not make this up" support group post

[pocochina]

IS ANYONE ELSE WATCHING THIS SHITSHOW?

I don't even know what was the most shockingly horrendous?

• a US congressman preaching actual white supremacy on live television?
• Chris Christie's witch trial of HRC for having the nerve to pursue diplomacy as Secretary of State?
• that three people there in some kind of official capacity - delegates and a Trump

Comments

[percysowner]

Well Livejournal signed me out, so the anonymous comment you just got was me. Oops?

[pocochina]

I unscreened it but I'm going to respond to this one in case you have notifications on.

I admit I've followed the convention on blogs, because I can't stand the ugliness that has been shown.

Definitely the wise choice. I was glued to it for at least a couple of hours every night. I think I was trying to avoid the moment of reading a headline and thinking "oh, that has to be an exaggeration...oh, no, it LITERALLY HAPPENED."

I can't think of anything like it in my lifetime. This is really scary stuff.

It's terrifying. The implosion of the GOP has been coming for a long time - I think since the late '60s and the Southern strategy but one could argue that Reagan doubling down on it in 1980 was the point of no return - and it was always going to be ugly. But we can't let the GOP bring the rest of us down with it.

[percysowner]

I'm fighting back. I've set up a recurring donation to Hillary Clinton dot com and I've signed up to volunteer. I'm just waiting to hear back from them. Then I'll be knocking on doors and helping to register people and driving them to the polls and doing everything in my power to bring sanity back into the political process. I'll be the person that gets sent to voicemail or hung up on, but I'll do it because I have to.

[rosaxx50]

I would have, if it didn't take place in the hours I was working. Probably a good thing TBH.

Did follow through various videos and FiveThirtyEight's analysis, though, and my jaw dropped hearing about Ted Cruz. (Sad though I am about Trump being the nominee, I feel like y'all dodged a bullet with TRUE BELIEVER Ted Cruz)

BUT moving onto other political news, any thoughts on Clinton's VP pick?

[pocochina]

Sad though I am about Trump being the nominee, I feel like y'all dodged a bullet with TRUE BELIEVER Ted Cruz

Yeah. I mean, Lindsey Graham's analogy is pretty apt. (If one national Republican were going to show a little spine and do the right thing by endorsing HRC, my money's on him. Not holding my breath, though.)

But, because Trump is so batshit crazy, we've kind of had to understate how batshit crazy Cruz is, too. And he might have had a less dismal chance of winning. Because he at least is willing to run a professional operation, and he is at least capable of conducting himself as an adult. He had a very impressive legal career - HE USED HIS POWERS FOR EVIL but he does have them - and thus might have stood a chance at holding his own in a debate with Hillary. And, because he is capable of speaking Reasonable Republican, he would have allowed people to convince themselves that he is not viciously hostile toward American values.

BUT moving onto other political news, any thoughts on Clinton's VP pick?He wasn't as much on my radar

[rosaxx50]

I've actually watched the full episode where Lindsey Graham appeared, and immediately sent the joke onto a friend also fond of watching politics. Lindsey Graham does seem to be a person who sticks to his guns, from what I've read about him.

(And yeah, those were my thoughts on Cruz: almost equally bad in some areas, worse in others, but Ted "lets shut the government" Cruz was better at packaging his dangerous ideas for consumption. Better at organising for delegates, more polished with the political machine. So, like, Cruz 2020 is definitely coming.)

I liked what I read about Kaine's political views, too, in the sense that they've changed through time - even if he still has the same values. I mean, it's hardly a weakness for someone to change with the country. God forbid one listen to their constituents

[noybusiness]

Why don't they just rename themselves the Looney Fringe party? What must this look like to other countries.

[pocochina]

Why don't they just rename themselves the Looney Fringe party?

hahaha. Well, their Ministry of Truth is collapsing, so who knows, they might end up stumbling into the actual truth. Wackier things have happened! In the last 48 hours!

What must this look like to other countries.

I wonder this as well. Like, does he come across like a Boris Johnson or Marine Le Pen? Does he actually give a worse impression of us than GWB, who was nearly as incoherent and bigoted, but somehow managed to be liked and taken seriously? INQUIRING MINDS.

[rachg82]

I can only stand to watch with my eyes & ears half-closed tbh. I'm afraid Trump will pull out a win in November, God help us all. Especially with the ridiculous Sanders supporters who seem to equate voting for Hillary as buddying up to the Devil in a blue pantsuit.