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pinkphoenix1985 October 9 2014, 16:02:54 UTC
Yay! I love that a new season means that you're back reviewing because I absolutely love "watching" the show through your eyes since I can't really stomach the actual show anymore without wanting to break something. There is a lot of potential here with Dean which most likely will be derailed by fans and Carver at some point because they can't have this reality of him for so long. I just hope that they don't go down the demon blood drinking route for Sam because that is dead.

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ellie_234 October 9 2014, 16:24:45 UTC
From what I understand Demon Dean is gone by episode 3/4 . I admit I have not watched the premiere last season left such a nasty taste and crossed a line for me that all I want to do is smack DD one.

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pinkphoenix1985 October 9 2014, 17:34:48 UTC
Yeah, that is what I've heard too :(

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pocochina October 9 2014, 20:34:28 UTC
Well thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the post.

I'm loath to blame fans' willful obliviousness on Carver, tbh; I think the episode was ON POINT wrt the problems with Dean's mindset. I would point to the great scene where he's fishing for validation from a damsel in distress and she tells him point-blank that "what you did wasn't about me, it was about you". It does all but run a ticker across the bottom of the screen. Fans are derailing already, with lots of superficial "you go girl!"s without acknowledging the context at all. That doesn't mean the context isn't there.

Concerning the demon blood, that is an interesting question. I think it would be hard to keep it from turning into fanservice for the people who want to demonize Sam and say he's just! as! bad! as Dean, but otoh, Sam really coming to terms with the fact that having demon blood in him doesn't make him any less of a person is something that definitely hasn't been done. So...I don't know! I think it looks less likely than likely at this point, though.

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ash48 October 12 2014, 12:28:45 UTC
Wow, I didn't connect that Anne Marie's "you did it for you" mirror's Sam's statement of the same in S9. That makes a lot of sense.

I did wonder how much Anne Marie being a victim of abuse ties into your ideas of Dean being an abuser. It was an interesting choice for her character I thought.

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pocochina October 12 2014, 22:55:53 UTC
Anne Marie's "you did it for you" mirror's Sam's statement of the same in S9. That makes a lot of sense.

WASN'T IT SO GREAT? Which is why I'm so cynical about fandom's sincerity in putting her on the you-tell-him-sister pedestal: because if people allowed themselves to hear her, then they would have to hear Sam saying the same.

I did wonder how much Anne Marie being a victim of abuse ties into your ideas of Dean being an abuser.

OMG, yes. I think Dean is very good at sussing out people's vulnerabilities, and Anne Marie is conditioned to rationalize away certain warning signs in other people's behavior, and...this is totally true to life.

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