nice post title! And I'm really glad you wrote about the show, because it makes it far more interesting to me, lol.
I'm really glad Davina is back! I really think her absence has affected my enjoyment of the show, and I'm hoping she has interesting stuff coming up not just being the witch tool they need or w/e.
ugh, I was bummed about Celeste, but makes sense you can't really be such a bold enemy of the Originals and live. Knew it was coming!
I love this show! I think I'm actually enjoying it a little more than TVD right now. Like, I definitely enjoy watching a new episode of TVD, but I look forward to new episodes of The Originals.
DAVINAAAA <3
Celeste dying was disappointing, but at least on this show witches come back to life, like, every other episode, so she could come back.
So, I am only occasionally watching this show, but yeah, word on all your Klaus thoughts. I did catch the last ep where he found out about Rebekah and Marcel plotting against him and I thought it was probably the best one of the show yet, because, reasons. And I'm at a loss as to how anyone could hear Klaus talking about beaten half to death by his father and NOT consider him an abuse victim, but that's tumblr feminism for you.
Oh, yeah, Niklaus is ~making himself the victim~ and ~getting the woobie edit.~ He's a bad victim who's reacting wrong, so he can't really have been abused.
I don't think anyone has ever disputed that Klaus is Mikael's victim.
Yeah, no, a couple of these arguments have wormed their way into my little bubble.
Its the notion that he's Rebekah's, Marcel's or Elijah's victim that is lost on me.
I'd separate out Marcel from Rebekah and Elijah, obviously, since those psychological dynamics are a lot more straightforward. And like, you can say from an objective moral standpoint that the same is true concerning Rebekah and Elijah? I'm not saying the only right way to react to the character is to sympathize. I'm saying that, rightly or wrongly, sympathetically or not, in his psychological landscape, due to events which occurred when he was absolutely not more powerful relative to either of them, he subconsciously perceives Rebekah and Elijah as posing threats to him.
He's over a 1000 years separated from Mikael and has made zero efforts to properly handle his abuse. Being stalked by someone who has created an international reputation as "the Destroyer" based on the brutality of his attempts to
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Being stalked by someone who has created an international reputation as "the Destroyer" based on the brutality of his attempts to kill you is kind of pushing the definition of "separated" IMO.
I mean, I'm not saying he's a fluffy bunny rabbit and people have to like and sympathize with him, but is it that big of a leap to think that there might be psychological repercussions to being hunted down like a dog in the street for 90+% of one's life? Katherine would have killed the fuck out of someone who sold her out to Klaus and we (myself included) wouldn't bat an eye.
I continue to find the psychology of these characters completely fascinating.
It kind of makes me love Elijah that (a) he is way more indulgent of Klaus than he ought to be now because he really believes it’s a way to repair his brother and his own self-image but also (b) it literally took him A THOUSAND YEARS to actually spit out an “I shouldn’t have done that, I can see why it pissed you off” to Klaus.
ME TOO. And I think that Elijah's guilt relates not only to his complicity in putting the curse on Klaus, but also to his failure (as the eldest) to protect Klaus from Mikael. "The first time our father laid a hand on you, I should have struck him dead." We never see that "first time" in canon, but we can reasonably assume that Mikael's abuse of Klaus began long before Klaus was turned into a vampire.
For Rebekah, even before Klaus had done anything to anyone, I think (a) she was young enough and set apart from the boys enough that she probably didn’t entirely understand what she was cooperating with, and (b) sucking up to Mikael
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I continue to find the psychology of these characters completely fascinating.
THEY'RE SO PERFECT.
ME TOO. And I think that Elijah's guilt relates not only to his complicity in putting the curse on Klaus, but also to his failure (as the eldest) to protect Klaus from Mikael. "The first time our father laid a hand on you, I should have struck him dead."
And Elijah's been sitting on that guilt for centuries. It undermines his sense of himself as powerful and righteous, that Mikael could make him do something he knew was so wrong, but there also is just that atavistic protective impulse that lost out at such crucial moments.
I kind of have loved that Elijah's confession in the pilot episode has not done a thing to improve Klaus' behavior toward him or anyone else, though? Hearing someone finally say out loud that it all should have gone down differently would re-open those wounds and make him more sore about the whole thing in the short term. I do think it helped Elijah, but not so much Klaus yet.
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I'm really glad Davina is back! I really think her absence has affected my enjoyment of the show, and I'm hoping she has interesting stuff coming up not just being the witch tool they need or w/e.
ugh, I was bummed about Celeste, but makes sense you can't really be such a bold enemy of the Originals and live. Knew it was coming!
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DAVINAAAA <3
Celeste dying was disappointing, but at least on this show witches come back to life, like, every other episode, so she could come back.
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Oh, me too. I wrote up a whole meta post about it.
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Yeah, no, a couple of these arguments have wormed their way into my little bubble.
Its the notion that he's Rebekah's, Marcel's or Elijah's victim that is lost on me.
I'd separate out Marcel from Rebekah and Elijah, obviously, since those psychological dynamics are a lot more straightforward. And like, you can say from an objective moral standpoint that the same is true concerning Rebekah and Elijah? I'm not saying the only right way to react to the character is to sympathize. I'm saying that, rightly or wrongly, sympathetically or not, in his psychological landscape, due to events which occurred when he was absolutely not more powerful relative to either of them, he subconsciously perceives Rebekah and Elijah as posing threats to him.
He's over a 1000 years separated from Mikael and has made zero efforts to properly handle his abuse. Being stalked by someone who has created an international reputation as "the Destroyer" based on the brutality of his attempts to ( ... )
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pmsl. bless.
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It kind of makes me love Elijah that (a) he is way more indulgent of Klaus than he ought to be now because he really believes it’s a way to repair his brother and his own self-image but also (b) it literally took him A THOUSAND YEARS to actually spit out an “I shouldn’t have done that, I can see why it pissed you off” to Klaus.
ME TOO. And I think that Elijah's guilt relates not only to his complicity in putting the curse on Klaus, but also to his failure (as the eldest) to protect Klaus from Mikael. "The first time our father laid a hand on you, I should have struck him dead." We never see that "first time" in canon, but we can reasonably assume that Mikael's abuse of Klaus began long before Klaus was turned into a vampire.
For Rebekah, even before Klaus had done anything to anyone, I think (a) she was young enough and set apart from the boys enough that she probably didn’t entirely understand what she was cooperating with, and (b) sucking up to Mikael ( ... )
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THEY'RE SO PERFECT.
ME TOO. And I think that Elijah's guilt relates not only to his complicity in putting the curse on Klaus, but also to his failure (as the eldest) to protect Klaus from Mikael. "The first time our father laid a hand on you, I should have struck him dead."
And Elijah's been sitting on that guilt for centuries. It undermines his sense of himself as powerful and righteous, that Mikael could make him do something he knew was so wrong, but there also is just that atavistic protective impulse that lost out at such crucial moments.
I kind of have loved that Elijah's confession in the pilot episode has not done a thing to improve Klaus' behavior toward him or anyone else, though? Hearing someone finally say out loud that it all should have gone down differently would re-open those wounds and make him more sore about the whole thing in the short term. I do think it helped Elijah, but not so much Klaus yet.
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